Making things better for nurses in the Philippines

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Since we are all aware that there is a retrogression in place, and that it will be sometime before many of you will get to the US, lets come up with ways that can make things better for you working in your country.

What do you think could be done to make things better? What if you were creating your own facility, what would you like to see done? Or not done?

What work conditions would make things better for you? What do you think that you could be instrumental in getting changed?

This is actually how we do things in the US and get to best practice status? Why should it not work where you are now?

84,000 nurses passed the board exam last year alone. 200,000 sat the exam.

where are the hospitals and who will pay for them. The Philippine Govt? it would be nice to think they will, but for those who do not live in the Philippines it is difficult for you to see what it really is like.

Perhaps the force should come from the general population but they rarely take any action unless it is related to their income.

More hospitals and more positions. Can the people afford to pay. There is no free medical here, you pay before they treat you. Maybe this is an area that could be targeted, encourage the government to create a government funded health plan that works, The SSS is a step in the right direction and without the patients with the capacity to pay I cannot see any changes to the present situation.

What do you think

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Pleas use this thread for making suggestions as to what can be done starting with a grass-roots effort to make changes to what is going on. And the changes can be very small, these have the best chance of succeeding, and it what is normally done in health care anywhere.

Things become more acceptable to others. There are a large number of graduates without jobs in healthcare as well as a very large number that is enrolled in nursing programs now, close to a million (950,000 to be exact).

Together as a group, things can get done. But just discussing what your country is doing or not doing is not going to make any changes to anything and not why this thread was started.

Please keep to the topic as it was meant to be used for.

Thanks for your understanding on this.

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The unfortunate problem we have in the Philippines is that Corruption is the way of life in the government. Elect another one and same thing.

Did you know the politicians spend millions of dollars USD$ on their advertising campaigns so they can become elected politicians. Then they make that and more in return.

These people make the laws that allow us to make these changes. And even the US has this problem to a degree with George Bush for example and he is still there.

A proposition to create a different Political system with two houses failed.

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This thread is not about a corrupt government but what you as an nurse can do to facilitate changes, the same thing that you do when you are working with a patient. Small steps to make a change are always easier to get accomplished.

And that is what this thread is about, please stick to the topic that was being discussed. It is not about your government but how to make things better for patients in your country.

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If it is not about the government who else is going to change the system? we can only suggest and provide information to the government but it will be them who make the changes so the government is really the point of the discussion.

What we can do is limited by what the government will respond to.

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That is where you are 100% wrong. If others can set up businesses, why can't some of you set up clinics in an inderserved province to help provide care there?

We have seen it done in many other countries and it can be done in yours as well. What about training programs for the mothers so that their infants can get better care?

Use the skills that you were given and it can be made to be useful. There are a large number of you without a job, so put your training to good use and help others.

This is just a couple of suggestions, I am sure that many of you have some others and it has nothing to do with your government. You need to create your own situations, and not depend on others to do it for you.

If the government is broken, in numbers, you can fix it.

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Government licenses are required for this and funding as well. If we had both or charitable contributions yes we can do this if the govt approves it.

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Those things are so easy to get. When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen.

I made some suggestions of things that will work there, it is up to you or others if you wish to do something with it.

But to say that is cannot be done is just pure hogwash.

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Specializes in Orthopaedics / Medical Oncology.

"When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen."

I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.

Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is.

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the government should be regulatuing nursing schools first. those with very low passing rate should be closed. plain and simple. its a money making business with most schools.

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"When one wishes to do something, it gets done. But when one makes excuses as to why something is not done, then it just does not happen."

I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.

Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is.

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you mean he was able to work as an RN without having a license?... my question is did the hospital absorbed him as staff? expect the worst here in our beloved country. many are far more qualified and yet rejected just because they dont have someone to back them up!!!!:argue::argue:

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Specializes in CVOR, General OR.

" I agree with you Suzanne. Although making changes will not be as easy, it should be something that the PNA (Philippine Nurses Association) should push for, I mean considering how many Nurses and Nursing students there are, that will surely get nurses to be noticed.

Just to share another story, a friend of mine who is underboard (meaning he has not passed the local licensure examination) was actually able to get in a government hospital as a volunteer. He gets an OR rotation at 6am to 2pm, a prime slot for most people. Sad part is, there is a long list of RN qualified applicants waiting for that slot and they're also willing to do it for free. When I asked him how he managed to secure a slot, he told me that he had powerful friends and the same goes for a lot more staff members... being underboard while carrying-out RN tasks that is. "

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PNA? Are they doing something? I have been a nurse since '98 and what I only heard was they ask for P300 monthly for members and never heard of doing anything for the nurses? I never even applied there. It's just a moneymaking.

Yeah, the reason why our country is not improving it's because of those people who use others power and not their capability as a person. I even heard other nurses who ask to certify from the hospital where they knew somebody there and gottcha, instant work experience! Then they send it to their employers abroad. Now, they work and don't know anything at all!! That's why I read many threads here that says Filipino nurses are not good workers anymore. Why? Because of those people who wanted easy life!! Shame on them. I really feel bad to other qualified Filipino nurses who are still in the Phil that really work hard to gain experience.But anyway, slowly but surely, I bet you, you will pave your way to success. Its just like saying "I know that, I can do that coz I've done that." CONFIDENTLY!!!:yeah:

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