World Philippines
Published Oct 26, 2006
this is the latest news from cgfns. just in.
commission on graduates of foreign nursing schools (cgfns international) statement regarding visascreen® eligibility of philippine nurses taking the professional regulation commission's (prc's) june 2006 nursing licensing exam.
click the link for details: http://www.cgfns.org/sections/press/news/2006/10-25-06_vs.shtml
this is for information purposes only. no one should argue regarding this issue.
suzanne4, RN
26,410 Posts
sorry, I thought the affected oath-takers would be interested to know that a case is in the Supreme Court which could affect their lives.this fact was glossed over in the Philippine news articles.I'll stop posting such articles.
this fact was glossed over in the Philippine news articles.
I'll stop posting such articles.
I am glad that it is posted, there are several here that keep arguing with me that the Supreme Court has never issued a statement, and remember that I look at everything that you post as well as send to me.
There are just some that refuse to open their eyes and only want things to be their way, but they are not.
Thanks for posting it. And for letting those with their eyes closed that I knew what I was stating in the first place.
And after sounding like a broken record again, the Philippine papers pick what they think will attract the most to buy their papers, they could care less about what they write. And I personally think that some of the writers need to get a new job for their corrupt reporting. Some are as corrupt as the stories that they write about, but have no idea of. And leave out the important facts.
I probably do more reading of papers out of Manila then many of you do. I try to keep very up to date with things, though there are several of you that may think otherwise.
pink_20
78 Posts
m one of the june2k6 passers...lets jaz hope and pray ths mess will be over.....
yep.....i hope so................. I also hope that the decision of the supreme court will be fair to everyone involve in the issue...............
angelcharm
62 Posts
i agree that one has to speculate the news... what more if its just opinions.
just because so and so said something like this, doesnt mean that it is factual.
do not confuse your opinions (personal interpretations or judgement) as facts
(proved to be true/ event that has occured) unless you have proofs of it.
i have been reading news everyday, but i havent read of the supreme court issuing a decision. its just funny how we impose our own decisions for the supreme court when the court has not make any announcements yet. but if there really is and i just missed it.. then i am open to the acceptance of it. just post the link.
let me quote first:
the judiciary is composed of courts organized into four levels. at the top of the judicial ladder is the supreme court. it is often called as the "court of last resort" since decisions and resolutions issued by it with finality may no longer be appealed. metropolitan trial courts, municipal trial courts, municipal trial courts in cities and municipal circuit trial courts comprise the first level of the judiciary. the regional trial courts occupy the second level while the court of appeals and the supreme court occupy the third and fourth levels, respectively.
now... for the interpretation...
if the supreme court has already made a decision...
why is there still a case goin on in the supreme court (as filed by ust)?!
it only calls for common sense. if the supreme court has given its final decision before a trial then they can be charged for impartiality. also, remember that it is the last court... that its decision is the final one and no longer appealable.
the question is simple, "where did the decision come from while there is still a case going on?!"
this is what im saying pinoy guy...
"the [supreme court]case has something to do with the oathtaking and the investigation on [the nurses] who benefited from the [leaked questions], but ours involves the source of the [leak] and. their criminal culpability."
you have just added proof that there is still a case goin on... no verdict yet... thank you for strenghtening the position.
those in the investigation who benefitted from all these are charged with "criminal cases".. which is a separate case..
for the benefit of those who have not read this...clarification statement of cgfns - faxed to prc dated 11/01/06"cgfns does not believe at present time that all legal challenges (of nle) have been fully and finaly resolved.""cgfns emphasizes that it accepts and all respects the judgement of the philippine courts and regards all licenses obtained following the june '06 exam as valid nursing licenses. cgfns is required by us law, however, to make a judgement about whether june 06 licensure process was comparable to that required for a us nurse."
for the benefit of those who have not read this...
clarification statement of cgfns - faxed to prc dated 11/01/06
"cgfns does not believe at present time that all legal challenges (of nle) have been fully and finaly resolved."
"cgfns emphasizes that it accepts and all respects the judgement of the philippine courts and regards all licenses obtained following the june '06 exam as valid nursing licenses. cgfns is required by us law, however, to make a judgement about whether june 06 licensure process was comparable to that required for a us nurse."
if the cg will agree to the court's decision... then only wait for the final decision of the sc...
and dont make the decision for the sc. it becomes absurd. lol
take this very simple statement:
you can not impose justice by doing injustice to the innocents.
need i say more?!
...the very same reason that will make ust's demand for a "retake everyone" inferior in the "justice system"...
i say flush the guity ones and bring justice to the innocent.
rn4ever?
686 Posts
So much has been said about the June 2006 passers getting or not getting their Visa Screen thingy. Just wondering… I have heard before that PRC offered the June 2006 Board Passers the option to sign out and have their exam results (passing exam results) nullified/cancelled out and retake the exams in December. Apparently, only three signed up for it. I’m curious, what if you just sign up to nullify your grade and then not retake the test anymore because you no longer want to. Will that make applying for a Visa Screen easier? I mean, doesn’t nullifying your exam result equal to not taking the June 2006 NLE it at all? (In the law, doesn’t the word nullify indicate that something will be treated as though it never happened or existed before?) No grade will be verified anymore. My idea maybe complex but for anyone who’s rushing and feel that they don’t really need a local exam (which is always a personal choice I believe), wouldn’t that be a solution to consider? And I only said this under the situation that the Supreme Court hasn't said that the passers are guilty. In short, no one has proven that they are guilty. And innocent people should be able to get their Visa Screen.
plato353
47 Posts
I find it amazing that this saga is still rolling on and on. Just face it the NLE is in a mess and has virtually no credibility worldwide with leakages and confused nurses not knowing whats going on. This scandal can be equalled to a member of the public walking into the NLE offices and buying a nursing degree of the shelf with no scrutiny what so ever. I say it bluntley. Oh yes nurses have been caught and you cant get away with faking it as a nurse in the USA.
No matter how MUCH you romantise the fact of desperatley trying to work in the USA your reglatory body needs to built form the foundations up. I would sincerely lobby US prospective employers and direct them to this website and view the chaos that exists. Question is are they willing to hire nurse under a cloud of scrutiny i would sincerely not otherwise the brunt of being sued is to huge.
Any organisation worth it salt has a transparent system of check and balances inplace not a (cheque recieved through a backhand and a sizeable bank balance of )a corrupt official.
I do hope this thread will sieze to exist on misinformation and authentic sources being displayed that states the truth. Its like someone shouting fire in a crowded market place and yet no smoke can be seen as everybody is running like mad trying to find out from each other whats going on without checking ones own involvement
If you have cheated you should not get a visa and re take. Heavan forbid a patient life might be at stake
Plato 353
i agree that one has to speculate the news... what more if its just opinions.just because so and so said something like this, doesnt mean that it is factual.do not confuse your opinions (personal interpretations or judgement) as facts (proved to be true/ event that has occured) unless you have proofs of it.i have been reading news everyday, but i havent read of the supreme court issuing a decision. its just funny how we impose our own decisions for the supreme court when the court has not make any announcements yet. but if there really is and i just missed it.. then i am open to the acceptance of it. just post the link.let me quote first:now... for the interpretation...if the supreme court has already made a decision... why is there still a case goin on in the supreme court (as filed by ust)?!it only calls for common sense. if the supreme court has given its final decision before a trial then they can be charged for impartiality. also, remember that it is the last court... that its decision is the final one and no longer appealable. the question is simple, "where did the decision come from while there is still a case going on?!"this is what im saying pinoy guy... you have just added proof that there is still a case goin on... no verdict yet... thank you for strenghtening the position. those in the investigation who benefitted from all these are charged with "criminal cases".. which is a separate case..if the cg will agree to the court's decision... then only wait for the final decision of the sc... and dont make the decision for the sc. it becomes absurd. lol take this very simple statement: you can not impose justice by doing injustice to the innocents.need i say more?! ...the very same reason that will make ust's demand for a "retake everyone" inferior in the "justice system"...i say flush the guity ones and bring justice to the innocent.
you are so right! i totally agree with you.......... its just a simple question that we are asking.....where did the decision came from while the case is still pending in the supreme court? :uhoh21:
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A simple question that has not been answered.............So you cant blame us being skeptical about it..............
The Supreme Court has asked that nothing be done until they review what has been happening and this was directed to the PRC. This happens anytime there is a case before a Supreme Court in any country.
