Philippines News August 30-Sept5 issue - page 4

For those of you that have not seen it, there is a full article on the front page written by the Dean of the University of the Philippines School of Nursing stating: (the version that is in print in... Read More

  1. by   kalayaan
    if i were you, id ask for a retake ASAP. the US wont budge bec of the alleged leakage. and whoever took the june 2006 nle should declare it in their nclex app. and filing one now will get it denied.

    fairness is not an issue here. if you want to be fair, you must probably be willing to wait 10 years for them to say that you shouldve really passed.

    but if you want immediate results, regardless of the grade you recieved -
    ask for a retake
    insist on a retake
    demand for a retake

    tell all your classmates and tell your school to insist on it. dont be afraid to take it again.

    prove yourself. be proactive. its the only solution.
  2. by   suzanne4
    Quote from asianrn
    I have precepted new US nurses graduates, and some did quite well with their orientation, and some did not..two of the nurses I precepted even lasted to about 6mos. I don't have any idea how they did with their clinical training as well from their "supposed schooling", have to teach from the very basic of spiking an IV, to hanging IVPBs, difference of aseptic to sterile technique,to start a TF..even simple neuro assessment and I am not even asking for a GCS...I guess all I'm saying is that, wherever the nurses are from, from the Philippines, to India, Pakistans, Mexicans, US graduates, we will always come across with people who are less than perfect, they probably need more attention and time to adjust, and of course patience on the part of the preceptor.
    Exactly, some never did nay clinical training, because they had 55 hours per term and were in lectures when they needed to be in clinicals. They bought their diplomas. And that is not fair to those of you that do the right thing. These diploma mills need to be put out of business.

    You need to speak up about them.............and all of you protest about them, something that you can do something about.
  3. by   kalayaan
    with board of nursing unfilled
    60,000 grads may have no nursing exams in december
    prc chief rejects p14m retake budget
    http://newsinfo.inq7.net/topstories/...ticle_id=19332


    like i said, june 2006 board takers, demand for a retake right now. your dream of a foreign job is in peril.

    for the future test takers, although the us is currently not requiring a local license, we can never be sure that this requirement will not change.
  4. by   tantrum
    Quote from kalayaan
    with board of nursing unfilled
    60,000 grads may have no nursing exams in december
    prc chief rejects p14m retake budget
    http://newsinfo.inq7.net/topstories/...ticle_id=19332


    like i said, june 2006 board takers, demand for a retake right now. your dream of a foreign job is in peril.

    for the future test takers, although the us is currently not requiring a local license, we can never be sure that this requirement will not change.
    the prc created it's own problem. now, there's no member of bon who will make the questions for the december exams. instead of having fewer examinees, they created a serious backlogs where at least 60,000 will have to wait to take their exams (hopefully this year and not next year). if they did not release the results, they could have saved faces and not created divisions. i don't know how all of this will end but hopefully they can have an exam by december.
  5. by   whammy78
    Quote from kalayaan
    if i were you, id ask for a retake ASAP. the US wont budge bec of the alleged leakage. and whoever took the june 2006 nle should declare it in their nclex app. and filing one now will get it denied.

    fairness is not an issue here. if you want to be fair, you must probably be willing to wait 10 years for them to say that you shouldve really passed.

    but if you want immediate results, regardless of the grade you recieved -
    ask for a retake
    insist on a retake
    demand for a retake

    tell all your classmates and tell your school to insist on it. dont be afraid to take it again.

    prove yourself. be proactive. its the only solution.
    sure, were not afraid to retake the exam just to prove that we could pass the NLE without leakage. and any international tests for that matter...it's not even an issue here...
    and of course we are aware that we should meet the criteria set by US in hiring nurses... and this applies not just in US but also here in the phils...
    no question about it...

    the issue here is the UP dean's e-mail... the hipocrasy of it all...
    Last edit by whammy78 on Sep 6, '06
  6. by   whammy78
    Quote from kalayaan
    with board of nursing unfilled
    60,000 grads may have no nursing exams in december
    prc chief rejects p14m retake budget
    http://newsinfo.inq7.net/topstories/...ticle_id=19332


    like i said, june 2006 board takers, demand for a retake right now. your dream of a foreign job is in peril.

    for the future test takers, although the us is currently not requiring a local license, we can never be sure that this requirement will not change.
    btw, when did you take your phil nle? you sounded from another thread that you just came to the us and about to take your nclex in california?

    if you take your nle in the phil, for 5 years stragight, you are aware that all tests 1 to 5 are integrated questions of subjects covering funda, mcn, med-surg, psych nsg... and even if test 5 psych nsg (the test w/ leakage) was taken out or nullified... psych nsg questions were also visible in test 1,2, 3 & 4... meaning if we just passed test 1,2 & 4 (test w/o leakage) it's already enough to measure our competencies in those subjects i mentioned ealier... gets?

    i hope they spend the 14m budget in cleaning the oil spill in guimaras... or the rehabilitation of bicol area, due to the mayon volcano eruption...
    Last edit by whammy78 on Sep 6, '06
  7. by   whammy78
    to kalayaan...

    all information you need in CA licensing is in the CA Bon website... fyi.
    Last edit by whammy78 on Sep 7, '06
  8. by   whammy78
    Last edit by whammy78 on Jun 21, '07
  9. by   JML_23
    I salute you whammy78, Thank you for always sharing your sentiments regarding our board exam. You have been a voice here to us here who was a part of the JUNE 2006 NLE, eveyrthing your said was so RIGHT.
    its painful to see that all that you've prepared for would go to waste because there are those selfish people who wants to pass the easy way...

    I know God has a better plan for our Batch... this batch, i know after all these things, i know we would be great nurses.

    GOD BLESS US ALL!
  10. by   caloy
    I'm sorry, but it seems that someone is being unfair towards kalayaan. All she's saying is that the requirements of the diff US BON might change and they might require the phil NLE in future. It is a possibility, after what happened in the june board. There are also hospitals here in the US that also want the nurses from the phils to take the phil board. In fact, i know someone who plans to get the NLE bec the hosp requires it (even if he passed nclex already).

    As of the other information written,
    1. You would NOT be sure if you passed the nclex at question #75, even the nclex guides would tell you that. It would take an arrogant person to say that he is sure he passed at #75. And it is NOT random, there is a system to it. That's the reason a person would find himself answering a lot of questions in topics he's not really good in.
    2. Yes, there are some subjective questions in the NLE; but i would not say mostly (implying more than 50%). Otherwise, you would have heard complaints from earlier examinees (reason: large numbers would fail the exams because you can not grade adequately a "subjective" exam of this scope)
    3. It would be nice to think that the Philippines hold great options for us. But the fact remains that it does not. If it did, how could you explain the fact that the vast majority of filipinos in this forum give so much effort in pursuing their american dream? (Also, Correct me if wrong, but the "neighboring asian countries" have lower salaries and working conditions)
    4. In all nle prior to the june boards, you must pass all 5 parts. If you fail even one part, you repeat that part of the exam. Passing less than 5 is not enough. Why, because each part has its own purpose/ focus. Otherwise, why divide it into 5 parts? If we follow that reasoning, the people who do not have their license because they failed one part of the nle should be automatically given their license. The only reason why some parts were not considered was because of the leakage.
    5. I'm sorry. but "have to do research and profiling of the BON members before they were BON members". Don't you think that's a wee bit of an exageration? (Don't mean to brag, but I took the nle in 2005; and me and a lot of my friends got scores in the 80s. We don't even know the names of the BON members). And if you read the forums, there are even those who did not join review centers. It's about what you learned in the 4 years of nursing.

    Don't get me wrong. I have friends who took the june 2006 boards. And it is unfair for the june boardtakers, no doubt. But please be careful of what you write and don't attack the people who want to express their opinion or give advice.

    I'm sorry. I just had to say something. Don't mean to offend
  11. by   whammy78
    :uhoh21:
    Last edit by whammy78 on Sep 8, '06
  12. by   crash_burn
    what matter is you passed your nclex to be considered to work in the us as nurse...what's the used of being a local board passer if your not a usrn......hhhhmmmm......:smiley_ab
  13. by   mahoogie
    Just hope and pray that US will be constantly open for foreign nurses..There is a nursing shortage in US but immigration laws and policies always changes, its unpredictable, with the greencard visa running out of numbers and the threat of terrorism-these make migration much harder..and recently, UK began closing its door for Filipino nurses, much worse, they sending some Filipino nurses back in the Philippines after their contract ends..and there would be a Retrogression this October, meaning, US greencard visa processiong would be freeze...

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