NCSBN rules out Philippines as NCLEX site

  1. just a sad update to other filipinos.

    american nurses' boards won't accredit rp grads

    http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/?...ws5_oct26_2006

    the american national council of state boards of nursing has rejected president gloria macapagal arroyo's request to include the philippines as an accredited venue of the united states licensure exam for foreign nurses.

    mrs. arroyo met with the council's president, faith fields, and associate executive director dr. casey marks yesterday to brief them on what was being done to address the leak of test questions during the june board exams for nurses.

    but they told the president that the philippines--up for consideration as a venue before the scandal--would have to wait "some time" before its application could be taken up again.

    "some time needs to pass, and that is definitely after a final decision is made clear," fields said in an interview after the meeting.

    "i think the entire nursing world is looking at what your action will be. we are very interested to see how you handle the crisis... you don't want to waste opportunity to make your own system better."

    commission on filipinos overseas chairman dante ang said the president was told that some 14 states in the us did not want to reconsider the philippines' application as an accredited testing center after the june test leaks.
    this post is not meant to incite arguments, but to inform.

    the leakage issue had, and is continuing to have, an international effect.

    i want this as a call to action & prayers.

    the ncsbn heads have spoken.

    i hope we have the will to do what is right.
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  3. by   pinoy_guy
    leakage spoils rp chance to hold us test for nurses

    thursday, october 26, 2006


    http://www.manilatimes.net/national/...61026top5.html


    the national council of state boards of nursing (ncsbn) has ratcheted up the pressure on the government to resolve the festering issue of the nursing test leakage.

    faith fields, newly elected ncsbn president, in a chance interview on wednesday told reporters that the tainted test results prompted her group to call off an earlier decision to conduct the national council licensure examination for nurses (nclex) in the country.

    . . .

    more than 9,000 filipino nurses take nclex annually to qualify for jobs in us hospitals and health centers. it would be a great convenience for filipino nursing graduates if the nclex could be held in the country.

    "obviously, it affected [our thinking]," she said. "we were set to hold the examination here, but we backed off at the last minute and decided to see first how you would handle the problem."

    fields said the national council is closely watching developments related to the tainted nursing licensure examination in june and hoping that the agencies concerned would carefully weigh the options and come up with the right decision.

    she pointed out that the us recruits more than 80 percent of its foreign nurses from the philippines every year, and thus it is but natural for it to watch every move of the government. and unless it can resolve the problem judiciously, she said, the high regard with which filipino nurses are held would irrevocably suffer.

    fields added that the competence of filipino nurses, as well as the integrity of the professional regulatory commission, is at stake.

    "i'm sure the philippine government does not want to lose the great opportunity for its nurses to work abroad," she said.

    in a separate interview, dr. dante ang, chairman of the commission on filipinos overseas, acknowledged that the country might have already lost its preeminent position. he said it would take political will to order a retake and show the world "we do not condone cheating in licensure examinations."

    . . .

    the ncsbn will meet in the first week of december. until then, ang said, the country's bid to host the nclex hangs in the balance.
  4. by   pinoy_guy
    'nursing exam scandal put rp in bad light'

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?storyid=54255


    the leakage-marred june 2006 nursing licensure examination has put the philippines in a negative standing in the united states, an american expert visiting manila said wednesday, abs-cbn news reported.

    faith evans of the us national council of state boards of nursing (ncsbn) made the statement as she met with president arroyo in malacañan.

    among the issues evans discussed with the president were the philippines' application as a testing site for the national council licensure examination (nclex), a major hurdle for filipino nurses applying for us jobs.

    . . .

    evans admitted that ncsbn was about to make a decision even before the controversy on the nursing board exam erupted. the group, however, postponed its decision to allow the government to ensure the integrity of the nursing board exam in the country.

    dante ang, head of the government's task force to make the philippines a nclex site, was also present during the meeting.

    he said that the president has instructed him to resolve the controversy that stemmed from the exam leakage and consult with an american firm that administers nclex for advice to improve board examinations undertaken by the professional regulation commission.
  5. by   pinoy_guy
    fate of rp as nclex venue hangs

    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?storyid=54331


    the philippines must work toward lifting a us travel advisory and protect the integrity of the nursing licensure examination before it can be considered as an accredited venue of the us licensure exam for foreign nurses, abs-cbn reported thursday.

    dante ang, chairman of the commission on filipinos overseas, said the american national council of state boards of nursing (ncsbn) did not outright reject president arroyo's request to make the country an accredited venue for the us licensure exam.

    "they did not reject the president's request...they said that of course they are ready to help us," ang told dzmm.

    . . .

    mrs. arroyo met with fields and ncsbn associate executive director casey marks to brief them on the government's efforts to address the controversy involving the leakage.

    ang said the status of the country's accreditation relies on the country's peace and order situation and the integrity of the professional board examination.

    he said ncsbn cannot conduct nclex in places where the us has restricted travel. "before the ncsbn can accredit a country, there should be no travel advisory," he said.

    the us embassy in manila issued a travel advisory to its citizens after a spate of bombings hit three cities in mindanao.

    ang said ncsbn and american chamber of commerce officials both agreed that the philippines is "generally peaceful except for some areas in mindanao."

    . . .

    "our entire examination system should be above suspicion. first of all, there should not be any leakage. the conduct of the examinations should be clean," he said.
    there we have it.

    they want
    1. peace & order
    2. exam integrity

    so i enjoin everybody to
    1. pray that peace & order is quickly restored in mindanao, and all over the country.
    2. pray the prc does what is required to clear the leakage mess. the cgfns officials implied what should have been done months ago. rallies & lawsuits are a waste of time & money. a court ruling is virtually useless, and will just prolong everyone's agony.


    fellow filipinos, now that we know what is required of us, we can all work together for the welfare of all.

    please.

    for everybody's sake.
  6. by   Rep
    Only a total retake can restore the integrity of the exam and that of PRC and most of those June 2006 takers don't see it that way. "That way" is what the CGFNS and NCSBN want to see.

    Well, we can blame the government, the PRC, the review centers and those nurses who wanted to do the easy way. Shame on them.

    Having an NCLEX test center is a great help to us but we would not be seeing it happening.
  7. by   banj21
    are the june 2006 passers included in the "blaming phase"?
  8. by   banj21
    and please,. take a good time to read. the NCSBN nor CGFNS did not, in any way, say that a TOTAL retake should be DONE. dont be unfair. the court already made its say, and still, some do not seem get it. the NCSBN has their own OTHER reasons on why they cant grant the PI's request, dont put all the weight to this issue, making it all appear that june 2006 anti-retake passers are the ones to blame. why cant others put an end to this one? integrity integrity integrity... who destroyed it? the passers? is that why WE SHOULD DO A RE-TEST? JOIN US THEN. its not just about us, anyways, its all for the WHOLE profession, right?
  9. by   banj21
    id rather edit this one, this may attract some agruments, again. have a great day everyone!
    Last edit by banj21 on Oct 26, '06
  10. by   pinoy_guy
    Quote from banj21
    and please,. take a good time to read.
    i suggest you take your own advice.

    "this post is not meant to incite arguments, but to inform."

    "fellow filipinos, now that we know what is required of us, we can all work together for the welfare of all."


    Quote from banj21
    the ncsbn nor cgfns did not, in any way, say that a total retake should be done. dont be unfair. the court already made its say, and still, some do not seem get it. the ncsbn has their own other reasons on why they cant grant the pi's request, dont put all the weight to this issue, making it all appear that june 2006 anti-retake passers are the ones to blame. why cant others put an end to this one? integrity integrity integrity... who destroyed it? the passers? is that why we should do a re-test? join us then. its not just about us, anyways, its all for the whole profession, right?
    arguing about this issue will take us nowhere.

    "diplomatic speak" requires translation to fully understand.

    cgfns/ichp/ncsbn will never say that we "should" do something. they have implied what should be done (peace & order plus exam integrity), it is up to us now.

    btw, just in case you missed lawrence's post: http://allnurses.com/forums/f235/new...en-186669.html i suggest you read http://www.cgfns.org/sections/press/...25-06_vs.shtml

    if the assessment concludes that the license is not comparable, the visascreen® application from a june 2006 passer will be denied.
    so court rulings do not matter, because ichp will do their own assessment.

    let's pray that they will issue visascreen certificates to the june 2006 nle passers.
  11. by   Rep
    Well, a lot of nurses don't see the BIG PICTURE, they only see the SMALL PICTURE which is that they passed the June 2006 NLE which is tainted and doesn't hold credibility.

    The bigger picture here is most of these nurses have dreams to work here in the US and they don't seem to get it that here in the US they have their own different rules which these nurses have to follow.

    The CGFNS and NCSBN could just have told Pres. Gloria that in the US if an exam is tainted, a retake is the only option. They were to NICE to her. So to speak in diplomatic language. And they are watching the Phil. government and PRC on how to deal this situation and make their own decision later. They already said that in the US that a retake is the best option so in a way they are telling us that PRC is not doing what a sensible professional agency should do.

    Please read the post of Pinoy Guy regarding the newsletter of CGFNS and June 2006 takers will know that it is an issue.

    And by the way, Filipino nurses don't need a PRC license to take the NCLEX but when you apply for the visa screen certificate, Filipino nurses will be asked if they have a PRC license or not and those June 2006 passers will have to tell otherwise if they don't and CGFNS will find out then their visa screen certificate and CGFNS will be revoked and their dreams of working here are gone.

    So this is the BIG PICTURE.
  12. by   suzanne4
    Quote from banj21
    and please,. take a good time to read. the NCSBN nor CGFNS did not, in any way, say that a TOTAL retake should be DONE. dont be unfair. the court already made its say, and still, some do not seem get it. the NCSBN has their own OTHER reasons on why they cant grant the PI's request, dont put all the weight to this issue, making it all appear that june 2006 anti-retake passers are the ones to blame. why cant others put an end to this one? integrity integrity integrity... who destroyed it? the passers? is that why WE SHOULD DO A RE-TEST? JOIN US THEN. its not just about us, anyways, its all for the WHOLE profession, right?
    Sorry but they have, over and over again. They have stated the same rules need to be followed with this exam as they would be required to do in the US to meet US standards, and any time that there is issue with any type of exam, the entire exam is repeated, never just sections.

    And this goes with any type of licensing exam in the US, not just nursing. And it has occurred before and will occur in the future, the entire exam is repeated. Nothing short of that.

    And again, there is no proof of passing that is being accepted outside of Manila, that is the entire point on toip oif everything else. PRC is still unable to verify results to other countries.
  13. by   suzanne4
    and for those of you that think that no one will find out that you took the exam, you forget that the list of the supposed passers, all 17,000 plus were published in all of the media coming out of the philippines. and seen by all of us in the us that knew anything abou the exam.

    trust me, the people that need to have the list, have the list.

    and cgfns states in their handbook for the vsc, page 14 and they now devote an entire page to it................that a vsc can be revoked and therefore the nurse deported.

    and as i keep repeating over and over again:

    it is a privilege to be able to work in the us, it is not the right of anyone. getting your bsn does not guarantee anyone that they will be able to work in the us automatically, it is only the beginning of the process. and there are plenty that get turned down.

  14. by   pinoy_guy
    nurses wake at dawn to take oath, move on

    http://newsinfo.inq7.net/inquirerhea...ticle_id=29218

    in an interview with the inquirer, ang said that in his recent meetings with officials of the united states national council of state boards of nursing (ncsbn), they told him that if a similar leakage had happened in the united states as what occurred during the nursing licensure examination here in june, they would have ordered a retake of the whole exam.

    in fact, ang said ncsbn president faith fields had told him that a nursing board exam in one us state was also wracked by a leakage scandal and the ncsbn ordered a retake of the whole exam to solve the problem.

    . . .

    around 80 percent of nclex examinees come from the philippines.

    . . .

    interviewed by the inquirer, dante ang said fields had called the method used by the prc in the recomputation of the june results was "unprecedented."

    "we couldn't believe it," ang quoted fields as saying.

    but ang quickly qualified that the ncsbn officials had made it clear they would not dictate on philippine authorities on how to resolve the controversy.
    congratulations to the nurses who just took their oaths.

    i doubt the prc will be revoking any licenses, as the government just wants to "move on" and forget about the whole mess.

    i think it would be best if the june 2006 rns applied for the visascreen soon, so we will know if this fiasco had affected these rns.

    if they get their visascreen certificates, that's good, and should be the end of the whole affair. hopefully.

    if not...then we should mobilize ang plan on how to comply with the cgfns/ichp standards.

    prayers will be needed that they do not revoke the philippine rn licenses and the visascreen certificates.

    what a mess.

    personally, i would rather have a complete retake now, rather than live with the fear of visascreen certificate revocation...and the subsequent deportation.

    i came across a news article around 10 years ago about 2 filipina nurses who applied for us citizenship and were deported. turned out their prc licenses were fake.

    (this was before news on the internet. i would appreciate it if somebody can pm me a copy of that article. from what i recall, the 2 nurses failed the nle, and went to the prc for a "recount." they were approached by a man to whom they paid a sum of money, and they got their rn licenses after a week. they were able to apply and work as rns in the us, and got their green cards. but a routine license check when they applied for us citizenship discovered that they were not in the philippine roster of registered nurses, and their green cards were revoked due to fraud. they were then deported. i didn't find anything about the case after that.)

    just my 2 cents.

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