CGFNS/ICHP's Official decision on Visa Screening for June 2006 NLE passers - page 5

CGFNS Denies VisaScreen® Certificates for Philippine Nurses Who Passed the Compromised June 2006 Philippine Licensure Examination PHILADELPHIA, PA — FEBRUARY 14, 2007 — After careful... Read More

  1. by   suzanne4
    Who ever said that has never worked in the US and knows absolutely nothing about working in the US.

    NCLEX-RN and CGFNS are nursing exams and passing of at least one are required to begin the petition process for immigration. US Immigration, known as USCIS, actually is the one that requires the Visa Screen Certificate for immigration purposes. It has nothing to do with licensure which is completely separate.

    For those that do not want to believe this, you will not be working in the US. And VSC is required for any type of visa if the person will be working as an RN in any type of capacity. Not just for the green card.
  2. by   Rep
    And to hear from Rosero from PRC stating that the VSC is not needed in 20 US states is incredible. This is a common malady with Filipino officials, they tend to speak as if they know everything, they should research before they open their mouths. Their statements regarding the VSC are confusing everyone.

    I feel ashamed everytime a Filipino in authority opens his/her mouth regarding a subject he/she does not know a thing.
  3. by   lawrence01
    Quote from Rep
    And to hear from Rosero from PRC stating that the VSC is not needed in 20 US states is incredible. This is a common malady with Filipino officials, they tend to speak as if they know everything, they should research before they open their mouths. Their statements regarding the VSC are confusing everyone.

    I feel ashamed everytime a Filipino in authority opens his/her mouth regarding a subject he/she does not know a thing.
    Well, now that the cat is out. The person I was referring to from another thread in the Int'l forum is this same person but Mr. Dante Ang was quick to refute that claim by calling up the US Embassy and the spokesperson from the consulate officially said that no nurse is exempted from it.

    Also, the young immigration lawyer who was interviewed again corrected himself by saying that the VSC is Federally mandated whether as Immigrant or just working visa and whether via consular processing here in the Philippines or through Adj. of Status in the US. NO exemptions. And he go on and say that the easiest remedy for it is to just re-take.
  4. by   fluppypacky
    To all June 2006 NLE passer,i think it's better to take the exam again.Anyway if you are really meant to be a nurse,then you will passed again no matter what. In addition I think the PRC should provide a free retake exam to all JUNE 2006 passer.
  5. by   nurseonduty
    Actually, a lot of us (june 2006 passers) want to comply with the cgfns req which is to retake test 3 and 5. We want to get it over with and prove that we really deserve our license. I think some of these student nurse groups are making it worse by letting the public feel that a majority of june 2006 passers don't want to retake. I can probably say that the majority would want to move on, retake test 3 and 5, and finally, get a visascreen certificate after taking the nclex...
  6. by   suzanne4
    My take on it? Let the student groups continue to protest and may they remain in the Philippines. The US Government is not going to change on this one, and if they do not, CGFNS is unable to do so.

    For those that have tried unscrupulous lies to get around the VSC requirement, may they be deported when they get here. That would be the best medicine for them. And that will happen. The internet is not a anonynous as one thinks and they will be found. No one wants anyone with a behavior like that to be working with them here in the US. If they are willing to take a chance and lie to the US Federal Govt, what will they do when they become a nurse and are responsible for patients here? Lie aobut what they did not do? Sorry, but I have no use for people like that, nor does anyone else in the US. And those of you here know exactly who this is directed at.
  7. by   lawrence01
    Quote from nurseonduty
    Actually, a lot of us (june 2006 passers) want to comply with the cgfns req which is to retake test 3 and 5. We want to get it over with and prove that we really deserve our license. I think some of these student nurse groups are making it worse by letting the public feel that a majority of june 2006 passers don't want to retake. I can probably say that the majority would want to move on, retake test 3 and 5, and finally, get a visascreen certificate after taking the nclex...
    Let them protest all they want and let them try to appeal. CGFNS will not over-turn their own decision. They have studied that matter comprehensively (that's why it took them so long) and they had a team of their own who visited the Philippines to make their own assessment of the situation so that they can have an unbiased decision.

    Besides, over-turning their own decision would mean American nurses protesting over them and the American public in general would loose confidence on them as they would be failing to safe-guard the American patients. A substantial vote of a lack of confidence from the American nurses and American general public would also mean possible stripping of their license to conduct the Visa Screening for the USCIS.
  8. by   suzanne4
    And trying to argue with essentially the US government could make the person a person non-grata for the US and bar them from ever working in the US.

    CGFNS is under contract specifically to the US federal govt to provide services for them, under their direction. Trying to fight with them over something like this is grounds for keeping them out of the US. The US is not required to take anyone that thinks that they have a right to work in the US, and passing the NCLEX exam and graduating from nursing school does not guarantee you one thing. Definitely not that you will be automatically permitted to live and work in the US. And I do mean permitted, you have to be accepted to do so. It is not automatic and can be taken away.
  9. by   rn4ever?
    We all know by now that to protest is not the best way to handle this situation. This case should be handled with an open mind---like an adult. The problem arises when some people try to get exceptions to the rules. The CGFNS has already made their stand. If one wants to become a nurse and a green card holder in the US, then he or she should follow the CGFNS' ruling. In general, the world will not stop and bend according to your whim...there are rules to follow in a civilized society---at the same time there is also such a thing as free will---if you don't want to go and work in the USA, no one will force you. It's a good thing that CGFNS just stated that if you retake it, you can still be eligible for a visa screen. What if they become irked by the protests and suddenly say that those who took the June 2006 exam will not qualify for a visa screen at all? Think about it. Just retake it and get your visa screen quick. I wish you the best.
  10. by   Rep
    Quote from caringnursenj
    We all know by now that to protest is not the best way to handle this situation. This case should be handled with an open mind---like an adult. The problem arises when some people try to get exceptions to the rules. The CGFNS has already made their stand. If one wants to become a nurse and a green card holder in the US, then he or she should follow the CGFNS' ruling. In general, the world will not stop and bend according to your whim...there are rules to follow in a civilized society---at the same time there is also such a thing as free will---if you don't want to go and work in the USA, no one will force you. It's a good thing that CGFNS just stated that if you retake it, you can still be eligible for a visa screen. What if they become irked by the protests and suddenly say that those who took the June 2006 exam will not qualify for a visa screen at all? Think about it. Just retake it and get your visa screen quick. I wish you the best.
    Agree...
  11. by   kathykaye
    Further information on February 14 announcement: CGFNS denies VisaScreen® certificates for Philippine nurses who passed the compromised June 2006 Philippine Licensure Examination

    http://www.cgfns.org/sections/about/news/news/2007/02-20-07_philippines.shtml
  12. by   pinoy_guy
    http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage.aspx?storyid=67484

    anim na kumuha ng nursing board exam re-take pasado

    the news article is in tagalog, but the gist is that of the 1,117 passers (june 2006) ordered to retake tests 3 & 5, only 31 did the retake in the december 2007 nle.

    (it did not mention the other passers outside the 1,117 who also did a voluntary retake last december 2007--i had come across 2 posters who claim to have retaken the exam. i think it's safe to assume that only 31 out of the 17,000 june 2006 passers did the retake in december 2007--0.18%.)

    of the 31, only 6 passed.

    that's 19.4% pass rate from the june 2006 passers


    analysis:
    1.) maybe this is why some people are adamant against a retake.

    2.) the dec 06 questions could be so different from the previous nle questions that they flubbed it. it should be noted that the previous bon member/s with the penchant for asking about "where to bury the placenta" or "praying for a solution" did not contribute questions to the dec 07 nle.

    (before the "copyright crusaders" speak, i would like to point out that a ust prof had told the newspapers the actual nle questions, and these were published in at least a national broadsheet.)

    note: this is for informational purposes only, to spur the june 06 batch to study. i suggest they ask for advice from december 2006 passers.
    this is not for the "rns" who had been wishing ill on their fellowmen. for them, there is karma.
  13. by   msdreamchaser
    well good luck to all june 2006 passers...
    we can make it...

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