Phil RN's as LPN

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To those who did not believe my reply to a post last time... Here are the facts:

Filipino RN's who are NCLEX passers are recruited by Mercan agency. Due to reciprocity, they are able to work as LPN's in hospitals like Sturgeon Community Hospital in St. Albert's. They had online courses in the Philippines before leaving and are undergoing a 3-week orientation at Norquest College prior to work as an LPN. NO exam.

SO we all agree that these NCLEX passers SHOULD WRITE the LPN board exam if they want to practice as LPN's whether here in Canada or anywhere else.

But... as it is... again... it is being done already, sorry but true... my friend along with the other NCLEX passers are primarily favored and recruited because they can easily be permitted to function as LPN's without writing the LPN board exam. But for her and her patients' sakes, she should write the LPN board exam.

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FYI: All medical graduates whether US licensed can not use their license if it's their first time to work unless you already used your license in a certain country such as Australia,US,UK or Canada. Second, they also asked for education background e.g. where did you finish your education if its from Philippines, we are on level 3 assessment meaning we are not from English speaking country.that is some of the points why UK and Australia need some certifications or you need to study again. Better with Americans our education is accepted because we used American teachings, exams is cheaper $500 (RN Canada) compare with Australia $7k(no joke !!!) upfront payment. But if you are already working for 2yrs as RN whether in Australia,UK,Canada or US you can strike anywhere you want to work and live. No questions with education or license as long as your licensed is in good standing.

Also, just to clarify: Even if all these people passed the NCLEX, that doesn't mean they have valid US (state) licenses. Passing the NCLEX is just one requirement of licensure in any state. For people outside the US, many states do not issue a license until the person is physically in the US and has a Social Security Number (indicating they are legally able to work in the US). So these people may well have passed the NCLEX, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're licensed, in the US or anywhere else.

I'm just providing that info for clarification purposes; I don't mean to suggest that I think that someone licensed in a US state should be permitted to practice in another country without a valid license to practice in that country!

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I think RIGHT INFORMATION should be spread regarding the nurses going to ALBERTA. It is against the law to use a title without the certificate of passing. Applicants should be keen and aware of what they are going into. we should remember every country has it's own rules and regulations.

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Recruiters should be clear with their ads....they give wrong info's that's why applicants are expecting for something. And applicants should be careful also...don't be fooled by some recruiters. Even they are not asking for agency they are automatically receiving something from the employer as a payment for the nurses they're hired especially if these nurses already passed the exam.Relax...

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My friend finally called. Still the same facts. She wasn't misled by the agency nor went here in Alberta with the knowledge that she still has to write and pass the LPN board exam.

I advised her to write the board exam anyway, but she said the previous batch of NCLEX passers (ahead of her by about a month) are already working as LPN's without having to write the exam, so why should she? She emphasized that there is nothing illegal about the agency and them practicing as LPN's...

In conclusion, Philippine RN's WHO PASSED the NCLEX are recruited by Capital Health through the Mercan agency to practice as LPN's without having to write the LPN board exam. This is a reality.

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If they are NCLEX passers then they must be worth something not learners as some of us refer to them as. I worked as a health care assistant in England with alot of Filipino nurses and was mentored by some of them as a student nurse. Today i owe alot of what i possess as a registered nurse to these Filipino nurses. Give them time and they will shine. Inserting catheters is just a fraction of the duty of a nurse, but i can almost guarantee that they possess such a high degree of clinical eye assessment.

so long

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SO we all agree that these NCLEX passers SHOULD WRITE the LPN board exam if they want to practice as LPN's whether here in Canada or anywhere else.

But... as it is... again... it is being done already, sorry but true... my friend along with the other NCLEX passers are primarily favored and recruited because they can easily be permitted to function as LPN's without writing the LPN board exam. But for her and her patients' sakes, she should write the LPN board exam.

Passing a US exam, does not even permit a US nurse to go to Canada to work. They must take and write the Canadian exams, and no exemption to that rule. It does not matter what any agency is doing, they do not write Canadian law, nor have a part in licensure there.

Suggest that one of you take this information to the local radio and television stations there and have them do a story on it or even the local newspaper. I am sure that there would be many there that would have some vocal concerns just like the rest of us.

And notice that in that one copies e-mail, it makes note that one would be able to write the Canadian PN exam once they finished their training, so it means that they are not coming to Canada and immediately working as an LPN as they may think that they are doing.

There are pieces to this puzzle that are definitely missing, but do beleive that it needs to be investigated by the newspapers and or tv/radio so that people in the community know whats being done with their healthcare there.

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

You know, Suzanne4, I think you're right about this needing to be explored by the media. I'm going to contact them today and get the ball rolling. The timing is bad with me going away tomorrow but I think any intelligent journalist would be able to follw the bread crumbs and choose a resource from here who could lend a hand.

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Thanks for doing that, then we will surely get the answers that we are looking for as well as citizens there knowing what is being done with their health care. Taxes are being paid for services to be provided by licensed providers and this is not the case for now with what we are seeing.

Still suspect that these so-called LPNs are being placed in training programs and then will have to write the appropriate licensing exam to get a license to practice on their own there as well as get so also suspect that they are going to be under the license of another nurse, and I am sure that the Canadian nurses that actually wrote the exam are not happy with this either.

They are un-licensed and that is what is at issue here, passing of the NCLEX exam in the US does not even grant an actual license in all states, so there is no such thing as reciprocity being used which does not exist any longer to begin with. Passing of the exam does not constitute licensure in the US, not until a license number is issued.

Wonder who provides the health care services to this agency that is bringing these nurses over? They need to be treated by unlicensed nurses and then lets see what they have to say about it, sure that they would not be very receptive of it. But it is just a way from them to make money and nothing more than that.

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Fogot to add: Have a very safe trip and enjoy the warmer weather, at least for you.

:wink2:

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Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

It's only marginally warmer here, and very wet!! Sun's out today, but who knows for how long!

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My friend finally called. Still the same facts. She wasn't misled by the agency nor went here in Alberta with the knowledge that she still has to write and pass the LPN board exam.

I advised her to write the board exam anyway, but she said the previous batch of NCLEX passers (ahead of her by about a month) are already working as LPN's without having to write the exam, so why should she? She emphasized that there is nothing illegal about the agency and them practicing as LPN's...

In conclusion, Philippine RN's WHO PASSED the NCLEX are recruited by Capital Health through the Mercan agency to practice as LPN's without having to write the LPN board exam. This is a reality.

Just not true at all. I think I have posted before but I am a Canadian citizen who was educated in the US and took NCLEX PN but had to follow ALL of the requirements of a foreign trained nurse in order to get my LPN license in Canada including taking the National licensure exam. I am an RN now and am pursuing getting my license in Canada as an RN and I not only would have to take the RN exam in Canada to do so but I also had to provide a local US license before they would even accept my application. Just because an agency misinforms your friend does not make it so. They do not make up the laws and are NOT the regulatory body of nursing. Whether you friend wants to accept the truth or not she will likely not even be able to stay in the country if it is discovered she is practicing nursing without a license. The agency would definitely not be backing up your friend if it is discovered.

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