Phil RN's as LPN - page 4
To those who did not believe my reply to a post last time... Here are the facts: Filipino RN's who are NCLEX passers are recruited by Mercan agency. Due to reciprocity, they are able to work as... Read More
Apr 26, '08that news piece clarifies everything.... i believe they will have to take the lpn licensure exam as passing the rn nclex exam does not make reciprocity for an lpn license. that is what you should strongly suggest for them to do. an lpn license would serve as a fallback for them in case they fail the crne exam, would it???
are these nurses there on a working visa? can they right away apply for an immigrant status when they get their licenses?
thanks again for clearing things out.
Apr 26, '08Most of us do not believe it but it is happening. It is what they call "reciprocity"?
I kept on verifying if the person I know will be writing the LPN board exam and she keeps on answering, "No, I won't as I am an NCLEX passer. Others who were recruited but did not take the NCLEX will have to write the LPN board exam."
Maybe she won't, maybe she will? I really do not know, but that was what was advised to her. Everyone in her batch who arrived yesterday are NCLEX passers (because they are the ones the agency prefers to hire due to the "reciprocity")
And as Malaya replied to Fiona59: "They are true nurses driven by the same goal, dedication, and love for their profession as you are or any nurse of any background. they are there with the full intention of working and giving their best and learning to better themselves and be at par with canadian nurses (if you wish) in serving your community. again, they are qualified nurses undergoing orientation and adjustment to your culture, your system and everything that's totally different but not necessarilly new to them. in a short time they can prove their worth and work with you as a team member."
And I have no doubt about the competence of these nurses as I have worked perhaps with some of them for more than 2 years before coming here. I am proud to be a Filipino, but it does not mean that I should be proud of Filipino nurses being able to work without writing the board exam here in canda or anywhere else. BUT if Capital Health deems the Filipino NCLEX passers should no longer write the LPN boards as what is persistently explained to me by my friend? Then so be it. Doesn't change the fact that I have faith in the competence of my fellow Filipino nurses and again I am very eager to serve with them in time.
Apr 26, '08As a licensed RN in the US, I would never be willing to work with "nurses" who are not licensed to practice in my state, and I imagine there are plenty of Canadian (licensed) nurses who feel the same. What an outrageous and offensive proposal, and how insulting to all Canadian nurses ...
Apr 26, '08to purple hippo
i guess i should believe you because you have been insisting on the veracity of this information, but for your friend's sake suggest to her taking the lpn exam doing so will serve a lot of purpose. i feel bad for your friend and the nurses that came with her
Apr 26, '08Yes, why would I make this up? What do I get from this? I am not even proud of it... I am simply stating the information supplied to me. Well basically because that is WHAT IS BEING INTRUCTED AND EXPLAINED to my friend by the agency. She, along with the rest, is very confident she will not be writing the LPN board exam.
I shall do that Malaya as soon as she calls me...
Apr 26, '08"Nurse" is a restricted title in this province. It can only be used by holders of a practice permit issued by CLPNA, CARNA or CRPNA.
That's why it's in quotations, no other reason.
You can claim to be a nurse but without the practice permit and the liablity insurance it carries you are NOT a nurse in this province and are opening up a whole can of worms legally.
CLPNA, and CARNA by the looks of it, have deemed the BScNs in question to have an eduation and skills comparable to those obtained by a PN diploma eduated nurse in Alberta.
Apr 27, '08FYI: LPN in Canada has board exams also and you can not use the title LPN if you did not have the certificate of passing just like the NCLEX. Philippines has no reciprocity with Canada. All nurses here are will be working as a General Nurse because they are on an interim permit meaning they are given a visa provided that they will take the RN exam within a year and only have 3x to take the chance. When it comes to salary much smaller than LPN rate.
Apr 27, '08I know that. I am directly hired by the hospital on a grad nurse permit, have 3 chances to write the CRNE to become a registered nurse. SO like I said? I also believe that these NCLEX passers should write the LPN board exam if they want to practice as LPN's. But as it is? My friend and the other NCLEX passers like her who were recruited (and more to come) said they were advised that they won't have to write the LPN exam. I am just passing on information.Last edit by purplehippo on Apr 27, '08
Apr 27, '08FYI: All medical graduates whether US licensed can not use their license if it's their first time to work unless you already used your license in a certain country such as Australia,US,UK or Canada. Second, they also asked for education background e.g. where did you finish your education if its from Philippines, we are on level 3 assessment meaning we are not from English speaking country.that is some of the points why UK and Australia need some certifications or you need to study again. Better with Americans our education is accepted because we used American teachings, exams is cheaper $500 (RN Canada) compare with Australia $7k(no joke !!!) upfront payment. But if you are already working for 2yrs as RN whether in Australia,UK,Canada or US you can strike anywhere you want to work and live. No questions with education or license as long as your licensed is in good standing.
Apr 27, '08SO we all agree that these NCLEX passers SHOULD WRITE the LPN board exam if they want to practice as LPN's whether here in Canada or anywhere else.
But... as it is... again... it is being done already, sorry but true... my friend along with the other NCLEX passers are primarily favored and recruited because they can easily be permitted to function as LPN's without writing the LPN board exam. But for her and her patients' sakes, she should write the LPN board exam.Last edit by purplehippo on Apr 27, '08
Apr 27, '08Quote from RN/LPN CanadaAlso, just to clarify: Even if all these people passed the NCLEX, that doesn't mean they have valid US (state) licenses. Passing the NCLEX is just one requirement of licensure in any state. For people outside the US, many states do not issue a license until the person is physically in the US and has a Social Security Number (indicating they are legally able to work in the US). So these people may well have passed the NCLEX, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're licensed, in the US or anywhere else.FYI: All medical graduates whether US licensed can not use their license if it's their first time to work unless you already used your license in a certain country such as Australia,US,UK or Canada. Second, they also asked for education background e.g. where did you finish your education if its from Philippines, we are on level 3 assessment meaning we are not from English speaking country.that is some of the points why UK and Australia need some certifications or you need to study again. Better with Americans our education is accepted because we used American teachings, exams is cheaper $500 (RN Canada) compare with Australia $7k(no joke !!!) upfront payment. But if you are already working for 2yrs as RN whether in Australia,UK,Canada or US you can strike anywhere you want to work and live. No questions with education or license as long as your licensed is in good standing.
I'm just providing that info for clarification purposes; I don't mean to suggest that I think that someone licensed in a US state should be permitted to practice in another country without a valid license to practice in that country!
Apr 27, '08I think RIGHT INFORMATION should be spread regarding the nurses going to ALBERTA. It is against the law to use a title without the certificate of passing. Applicants should be keen and aware of what they are going into. we should remember every country has it's own rules and regulations.
Apr 27, '08Recruiters should be clear with their ads....they give wrong info's that's why applicants are expecting for something. And applicants should be careful also...don't be fooled by some recruiters. Even they are not asking for agency they are automatically receiving something from the employer as a payment for the nurses they're hired especially if these nurses already passed the exam.Relax...