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as the financial crisis deepens in the us, canada is also feeling the pain. it was thought that we'd feel less impact because of differences in our methods and systems, but the truth is that we aren't immune to it at all. there were more than 129,000 jobs lost in canada in january alone. most of them were in the manufacturing sector, but not all.

hamilton-layoff notices go out next week to 250 staff as hamilton health sciences cuts $21 million from its budget.

the hospital has already axed 49 corporate jobs to save $4 million. it also plans to save cash by having fewer nurses per patient and less-skilled workers providing care.

st. joseph's healthcare, which has predicted 175 job cuts, will tell its staff feb. 2 its plans to reduce a $12 million deficit.

http://www.healthzone.ca/health/article/575245

hospital unions projecting 5,000 job losses, serious cutbacks to patient care if mcguinty fails to address hospital underfunding

monday, january 12, 2009

toronto, jan. 12 /cnw/ - in a joint press conference this morning, leadership from four major hospital unions representing more than 80,000 hospital staff warned of large scale job losses and downsizing in ontario's hospitals. in a briefing note, the unions warned that underfunding at currently planned levels translates into a cutback of 5,000 full time jobs and more than 9 million hours of patient care. serious hospital cutbacks are threatened at hospitals of every size (small, medium and large) in every region of ontario.

"hospital downsizing is already resulting in longer waits for patients, user fees for patients, and loss of services," noted patty rout, vice president and treasurer of opseu.

http://www.seiulocal1.org/hospital_unions_projecting_5_000_job_losses__serious_cutbacks_to_patient_care_if_mcguinty_fails_to_address_hospital_underfunding.aspx

most of the nursing job losses have been in ontario, but that doesn't mean the rest of the country will be safe.

alberta health care to suffer as government tightens its belt

appointments raise concerns of privatization

jason fekete, calgary herald

published: friday, november 21, 2008

provincial health minister ron liepert warned albertans on thursday to gird for difficult decisions ahead on health care as the government grapples with what's likely to be reduced revenues next year and some tough-love budgeting.(...)

the board will also closely examine all health-care supplier contracts to ensure the province is getting value for money, he added, while staffing requirements will "continue to change" as the system evolves.

"there's going to have to be tighter belts," hughes said. "we are going to change the way we deliver health care in alberta."

http://www2.canada.com/calgaryherald/news/story.html?id=786a24ef-91c6-4e6d-a36b-af954b833708

it is entirely possible that the recruitment of iens will drop off sharply as the canadian employment picture worsens. while canada is not currently considering a moratorium on hiring nurses from abroad, it may reach that point. please be aware and prepared for it should it come to that. also consider the position of your spouse or other supporting person who will be job-seeking in canada who may now have severely limited possibilities. take nothing for granted. if you want it badly enough, you'll have to be willing to fight.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
Hello Friends

Am a Male nurses from India

i heard inspite of the crisis, still agencies are recruiting Nurses to Canada

Is it possible to migrate to Canada as a nurse at present?

Or the agencies r fake?

Each province is different, currently Alberta isn't taking on new foreign nurses and jobs are strictly controlled. Also no need to use an agency, you can apply to a college of registered nurses for the province you want to live and work in, meet their requirements for International Educated Nurse and once you receive eligibility to sit CRNE then apply to hospitals re helping you with work permit

There are many threads worth reading both in this forum and the Canadian forum on the process suggest you hav a good read of them

Specializes in MICU.

Thank you Silver for your quick reply,

But my friends here those who got eligibility for CRNE cant find an employer,

Do u have any suggestion for finding an employer?

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

I can only suggest sending resumes to the hospitals and following up a couple of weeks later with a phone call. A lot will depend on which province they applied to and what demand is like

Which province are we talking about? What sort of experience do they have?

Specializes in MICU.

My friends and me applied for Manitoba province,

We have 3 years experience in ICU,

Since we are here in India we dont know details of any hospital there.

And do u have any idea about senior care nurses?

I think u can help me in many ways

Specializes in MICU.

And silver, do you know whats the situation in UK

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.
My friends and me applied for Manitoba province,

We have 3 years experience in ICU,

Since we are here in India we dont know details of any hospital there.

And do u have any idea about senior care nurses?

I think u can help me in many ways

If you do a google you should be able to find out what hospitals are available in Manitoba and where to send your application plus research the hospital. I am at the other side of the country to Manitoba and know not a lot about the area.

What do you mean by senior care nurses?

And silver, do you know whats the situation in UK

The UK is off topic to this thread but read the UK forum especially the thread Update on USA to UK as I have posted that unemployment is at it's highest for many years

Specializes in MICU.

by Senior care i ment, the nurses who did not pass CRNE may work as RPN or in care homes. they will be under RNs.

Specializes in Medical and general practice now LTC.

If you fail CRNE then I doubt they can work as a RPN as that has a exam also. Sounds like they would be working as care assistants not working as nurses. There will be a difference in roles and what they can and can't do. Also if you have come over on a TWP failing the exam may have an impact on the work permit. Plus TWP is only set to one employer and you can't work elsewhere.

by Senior care i ment, the nurses who did not pass CRNE may work as RPN or in care homes. they will be under RNs.

RPN is a Reg. Psych Nurse in Western Canada.

Ontario is the only province which uses the term "RPN" to describe LPNs. LPNs are independent nurses, who do NOT work "under" RNs. The Charge RN will give them their work assignment just as they do the other RNs on the floor. They work under their own practice permit and are responsible for all aspects of their patient care. That is without direct supervision.

It sounds like you have been given a lot of misinformation

Specializes in NICU, PICU, PCVICU and peds oncology.

In Alberta the news continues to be very bad for nurses and for all health care employees. Dr Duckett has just released the details of an early retirement buyout (nothing near as generous as those given to those ousted from the regional health authorities earlier in the year, actually rather insulting if you ask me) for non-unionized health care personnel. People have until September 18, 2009 (2 weeks from the date of the announcement... a Friday of course) to decide whether they're interested. The decision will be a permanent one should the deal go forward. There are no targets for how many people will actually be granted the buyout, but Dr Duckett has said that he's trying to avoid laying people off. All of this in the face of a looming H1N1 crisis...

If you're still unconvinced, go to http://www.edmontonjournal.com and type "health care" into the search bar. You'll be astounded at what you'll read.

Specializes in Psych, Informatics, Biostatistics.

This does not look good for those of us intending a move home to Canada. I think the layoffs/buyouts in AB will have a ripple effect. I know many people relocated to AB from the east.

It confirms what we have been saying all along but have described as "naysayers" and bigots by many posters.

Nurses are already leaving for "better" prospects in other provinces. This will reduce the interest in overseas nurses.

Once the layoff "really" happen, the move to other provinces by nurses will happen. The 1990s in Alberta are still talked about with disgust in nursing circles.

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