Demand for Nurses in Canada - page 4

by audkate

Could somebody give me current info regarding the current demand of nurses in Canada and the usual requirements for foreigners before they are employed in a hospital. Do you happen to know how many Filipino nurses are currently... Read More


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    You know dear friends, its really bad to generalized. Like on the above post, I dont want to go to US. Yes its a nice country but I do prefer Canada. My boyfriend is a american citizen who wants me to go there, but I still prefer to work in Canada.

    Its a matter of choice. Some people want this and some people dont. So its not right to generalized. Peace everyone!
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    I totally agree with lenjoy when she says it is a matter of choice. A few years back, while I was visiting the US, I met an employer at a party who was willing to hire me and bring my family over. I seriously considered his offer until I visited Canada. I then decided that Canada was the place to be and declined the job offer. Until now, relatives from the US wouldn’t stop bugging me to go there. They even offered to pay for NCLEX even if I had no plans of working there, in the hopes that passing would make me change my mind. And I did pass. But I’m in Canada and plan on staying here for good. My family is here now. I’d like my kids to have a future here. As a Filipino I feel what the nurses there are going through. It’s tough and some may not make the right or ethical or moral decisions. But I wouldn’t want a working environment where I feel that I am being scrutinized in every move I make just because of what a few nurses are doing.
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    Felisa,

    Sounds like you are putting down roots. Have you found a position? Have you taken the CRNE?

    How are working conditions compared to your motherland?

    Must be good to have your kids with you?

    How is the cost of living? Are you able to live comfortably?
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    Quote from Alexk49
    US or UK does not have a nursing shortage, both and limited immgration to almost nothing.

    First impressions are critical. When the first question one asks about a home country is how much money one can make, it gives the impression one only cares about money. Not the people, not nursing or the community.

    I am sorry your home country is bad, but to make a community a good one, it takes work. A good citizen has to participate in the community. When the impression is only how much money one can earn, it brings a very taste in my mouth. Most employers value employees who are committed employemt at their institution. Awards are given for length of employment. When an employer employes you it is with the hope it will be a lasting relationship, something like a marriage. You don't enter a marriage with the attitude to leave when a better mate comes along.

    There is a shortage of nurses in USA, and statistics show it will be worst in coming years. Many hospital are always recruiting nurses from overseas because of this. The cool thing about being a RN or PN in USA is that, once you take the NCLEX and pass in one state, and maintain a valid license...you can go anywhere in the USA and work without the hassle...because the NCLEX is a national exam, every RN or PN taking the exam take the same thing. NCLEX-RN , NCLEX-PN.

    There is even a something that call COMPACT STATES, it's a group of states (13 now) that are members of the COMPACT that allow nurses who got their original license from one of these states to work in any of those states without having to applying for that particular state board license. Eg. say I live in Virginia now and got a job offer in Maryland, I can start working tomorrow without applying for a License for the state of Maryland.

    Right now I thinking of relocating to Canada....In Ontario or Calgary, AB area. Looking at the cost of real estate there against the wages..i'm saying, why is it so expensive overthere?
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    Could you site your source of the nursing shortage? In fact the US has been in the state of retrogression and immigration has trickled to near zero.

    You are partially correct about the NCLEX, if you have trained in a standard US program, you will have no issues. But if you are foreign trained or attend Exclesior transferring is not as easy, even with the compact agreement.
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    Quote from wannab06
    Right now I thinking of relocating to Canada....In Ontario or Calgary, AB area. Looking at the cost of real estate there against the wages..i'm saying, why is it so expensive overthere?
    Ontario has historically been the industrial heartland of Canada, with high wages to go along with the skilled work performed. It is also where the federal government is seated, in the nations' capitol, Ottawa, and where many multinational corporations have their Canadian head offices. There is a high population density so even small towns have high real estate costs because of their proximity to the big city.

    Alberta has oil. Oil=$$$ People who work in the oil patch make $$$. Executives make $$$, and the companies that support the oil patch make $$$. Therefore, everything out here costs $$$.

    Nursing is considered a public service although the provincial governments usually try to buffer themselves from contract negotiations by having several layers of bureaucracy between them and the front lines. And as such, nursing isn't valued for what it provides to the province's economy. My plumber makes more than twice what I do and I'm at the top of the scale.
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    Quote from alexk49
    felisa,
    sounds like you are putting down roots. have you found a position? have you taken the crne?
    before i left for canada, i made a list of potential employers. and since i have visited canada before, i more or less had an idea of where i wanted to stay. the very next day after we landed, i sent my application and got replies (both positive and negative) about a week later. yes, i have found a position. i am working on temporary registration for a nursing home under fraser health, and i hope to take the crne this coming october.

    Quote from alexk49
    how are working conditions compared to your motherland?
    back home, one would be lucky to land a nursing job. and doubly lucky if it were in a tertiary hospital. some government hospitals are the worst – no supplies, low budget, not necessarily an ideal place to be at when one is sick. but (in little ways) you get to help those who are poor, despondent, and no where else to go. here, it’s a different kind of nursing. more responsibilities to keep you on your toes the whole day/night. some say the pay is not enough, but it’s better than what nurses earn back home.

    Quote from alexk49
    must be good to have your kids with you?
    yes, i’m glad the kids are with me. we once considered that either my husband or i come to canada ahead and let the rest of the family follow, but later on decided to come together. one for all, all for one. summer is almost over and school will be starting in a few days. they are looking forward to meeting new friends in their new school.

    Quote from alexk49
    how is the cost of living? are you able to live comfortably?
    back home, a family earning average would spend about half the family income on food, sometimes more. after paying the usual bills, rent, tuition, gas, etc. there is usually little or nothing left for savings. so there is a common adage that goes “bawal magkasakit” (or “getting sick is not allowed”), because it might mean borrowing money or selling property to pay for healthcare…here in canada, food is very affordable, and that’s saying a lot coming from a family with two teenagers who eat like lions. we pay rent which already includes utilities and cable, a few phone bills, internet, transportation, etc. at the end of the month we still have enough to indulge in a few wants, watch a couple of movies, and add to our savings. are we living comfortably? yes.
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    Quote from purple_ylem
    H'lo. I'm also planning to work as a nurse in Canada and stay there for good. I agree with Libie...most Filipino nurses plan to make Canada as their stepping stone to the US. But I believe that it's a great country with one of the best health care systems in the world, and so if you're an internationally educated nurse and you get the chance to practice there, more often than not, you'd stay for good in beautiful Canada.

    hi purple! just want to make it clear that i didnt say that most filipino nurses plan to make Canada as their stepping stone to US.

    This was my actual post

    "hello there! i beg to disagree with that Filipino nurse who told you that. i know a lot of philippine nurses who would not want to work in another country. It's just a matter of personal choices.

    i also want to agree with you that other people, not only Filipinos, should not make Canada as their stepping stone for them to go to US. Canada is a great country and i know you'll love it here"

    --you can check it here --http://allnurses.com/forums/f108/demand-nurses-canada-323593-4.html


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    Please be careful next time. I dont support those people who uses another country as their stepping stone to go to US and i also think it's unfair to generalize filipino nurses or any other nationality.

    anyway, best of luck and God bless to you.. Just PM me if you want to ask something. Hopefully, you'll love it here in canada. What province are you planning to register?
    Last edit by libie on Aug 25, '08
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    We are all brothers/sisters by profession, I think you can tell those nurses who are very verbal with regards to their plan what you really think, since it is affecting the working relationship in the hospital. I can understand how you feel when you go out of your way to help them and they will just up and leave when greener pastures comes a calling..Since these nurses are new, they are orientating to everything about Canada, I think you can extend more by orienting them of the advantages in Canada and how teamwork/effort will help and how employers/fellow staffs would really appreciate it if they could stay and become a part of the workforce...I think communication is the KEY...In my own opinion, they don't mean any harm nor offense...
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    Quote from Alexk49
    Could you site your source of the nursing shortage? In fact the US has been in the state of retrogression and immigration has trickled to near zero.

    You are partially correct about the NCLEX, if you have trained in a standard US program, you will have no issues. But if you are foreign trained or attend Exclesior transferring is not as easy, even with the compact agreement.
    It does vary state to state and in certain states the shortage is real. I seems evident to me with the way they will hire almost anyone on our floor who has a license that a shortage exists in Arizona. The fact that retrogression exists does not mean there is NOT a shortage of jobs for nurses but it is definitely not a priority for the legislators to deal with the retrogression issue due to many factors (ie) upcoming election, illegal immigrants etc... Every time a bill comes up to give more visas for nurses it comes down to the fact that the illegal immigrants want amnesty. The government does not want that and therefore no bill has been passed for nurses either. They don't want to give preferential treatment to any one group even if they are needed.


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