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  1. Visit  VICEDRN profile page
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    Quote from HM-8404
    You go into a job interview with the attitude that the job is negative? How can you present a positive attitude when you go into the interview with that attitude? Why even apply for a job like that?

    When the job market is saturated it is a buyers market. It is not up to HR to convince you this is where you need to work. It is up to the person being interviewed that they are the right person for the job.

    Not to mention it is the hiring managers job to judge if the person being interviewed is right for the job. They do this based on their past experiences. What else can they go by?
    I didn't say that I go into a job interview with a negative attitude. Do I look for signs that the hiring manager is judgment, negative minded and not supportive of employees? You are darn right I do.

    The "Buyers market" depends on where you are and how much experience you have. I may have had to suck it up as a new grad two plus years ago but I certainly don't have to now.

    You are right. It is up to me if I am "right for the job." I assure you, I am not right for a job where the boss pre-judges me based on her one time bad experiences with another person on topics unrelated to job performance. Managers should hire people based on a collective of their previous experiences with people, skill mix on the unit and a variety of other things including personality.
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    Your first 5 words were..."The job is negative enough." That is pretty much a negative attitude toward the job. If you spot the signs that the hiring manager is judgmental I hope you stop the interview process immediately and walk out with your two years of experience.
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    Quote from HM-8404
    Your first 5 words were..."The job is negative enough." That is pretty much a negative attitude toward the job. If you spot the signs that the hiring manager is judgmental I hope you stop the interview process immediately and walk out with your two years of experience.
    Its not the same thing. Sorry. There are sad and stressful things in nursing. I think we can all acknowledge that and admit that being kinder and less judgmental to one another is a good idea in the environment we work in.

    I am not some rude impolite nutcase like the ones that would refuse to hire someone they saw "playing" with their phone in the lobby. I wouldn't simply walk out of an interview even if I spotted the signs of the judgmental negative hiring manager. I would keep smiling, give it my best anyway and simply decline the position later on but frankly, in this geographic area, two years in the ER is plenty that I can keep on shopping for a job that doesn't...completely suck because the manager is awful.
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    Quote from VICEDRN
    The "Buyers market" depends on where you are and how much experience you have. I may have had to suck it up as a new grad two plus years ago but I certainly don't have to now.
    Wow wee 2 plus years of experience I bet all the managers are just drooling over so they don't care what you do.
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    Quote from tothepointeLVN
    Wow wee 2 plus years of experience I bet all the managers are just drooling over so they don't care what you do.
    Nursing really is full of the nastiest nastiest people, isn't it?

    Its going a little far to equate reading on your phone while you wait to "not caring what you do."

    And its a little silly to act like 2 years experience isn't enough to pick and choose what job you apply for and are hired for depending on what area in the country you are in. In this area, yes, two years is enough that you can be a bit choosy.

    Dichotomy is boring and its dichotomous attitudes like yours that are the first sign that an workplace environment is toxic. One of the things I look for when I am interviewed for a position is the type of dichotomy exemplified in your post.
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    honey your the one that came on here tooting your own horn. you said i quote.

    i am hardworking, experienced er/trauma nurse with excellent job reviews: a fierce patient advocate, assessment skills above my experience level, hardworking, knowledgeable, and professional.


    and then we find out your experience is only a year or two above having no experience at all. yes a small amount of experience gives you some choice but it's relative and not enough to pick and choose which managers you want to work with. maybe you live in a small rural area i don't know but i live in the second most populous city in the us and i can tell you that attitude will get you nowhere.

    everyone seems to want to able to do what the heck they like. if your going into the interview you need to present yourself in the most respectful way possible that means keeping your phone in your pocket.
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    Quote from HM-8404
    Your first 5 words were..."The job is negative enough." That is pretty much a negative attitude toward the job. If you spot the signs that the hiring manager is judgmental I hope you stop the interview process immediately and walk out with your two years of experience.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one that didn't think two years was all that special. I'm not that much more experience myself but I'm aware how how little my experience is worth yet.
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    Quote from tothepointelvn
    honey your the one that came on here tooting your own horn. you said i quote.



    and then we find out your experience is only a year or two above having no experience at all. yes a small amount of experience gives you some choice but it's relative and not enough to pick and choose which managers you want to work with. maybe you live in a small rural area i don't know but i live in the second most populous city in the us and i can tell you that attitude will get you nowhere.

    everyone seems to want to able to do what the heck they like. if your going into the interview you need to present yourself in the most respectful way possible that means keeping your phone in your pocket. [/left]
    i live in the atlanta metro area. if you were an rn with a bsn and two years of experience in er, icu or l&d, its really not that hard to get a job around here. its totally enough to pick and choose and at this point in my life, i am not dumb enough to take a bad job so that i can aggravate myself and end up hating my life because my manager is toxic regardless of the desperation. i don't know if you are an lvn or if you have advanced past that at this point but maybe the market's just a little different for you than it is for me, both geographically and based on different job titles. i was also plain here that i don't "throw off" that attitude regardless of what i think about the hiring manager.
    also, you didn't "find out" i had "only a year or two above no experience at all." i clearly stated i have 2.5 years rn experience and you could have seen that off of my profile anyway (or looked at previous posts: i also have 4 years in ems). and you were responding to my opinion about amounts of experince required for a job, not about tooting my own horn as you say. but then...there's that dichotomy again...

    i am sorry if that simple logic flies in the face of your own reality but this isn't the second most populous city in the us. its atlanta. getting a job really isn't that hard here depending on the qualifications and background you have.

    i started out saying maybe i should keep my phone in my pocket but i also said i think it has nothing to do with being respectful in the waiting room.
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    Question. How many jobs have you been through in the past 3 years? Probably not enough to really state that you can pick or choose. You state that you don't throw off that attitude but it is blazingly apparent here.

    Pick and choose is a relative thing as I previously pointed out. I could quit my job today and get one the same or worst but pick and choose implies that I could get ANY job I want and at under 5 years experience thats really not true.

    But this is what this thread is pointing out that sometimes it's peoples attitudes (including mine sometimes) holding them back not the economy alone.

    Though apparently if you want to hire polite, respectful people that makes you toxic. Give me a toxic workplace any day then.
    Last edit by tothepointeLVN on Jul 4, '12
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    Quote from VICEDRN
    Also, you didn't "find out" I had "only a year or two above no experience at all." I clearly stated I have 2.5 years RN experience and you could have seen that off of my profile anyway
    I don't know if you've checked your profile since AN switched over but your profile doesn't state that so yes I did "find" out from a subsequent post.

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