Discrimination Against Ethnic/Minority Names - page 2

by biomimetical

No matter how many self-righteous managers and nurses might deny it, there is still plenty of discrimination against job hunters with ethnic names. All you have to do is Google to find plenty of articles, stats, and studies... Read More


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    Again, people who are NOT African American can not speak on it. They are not black and have not had our experiences with trying to prove that we are equal and just as good a nurse as our white counterparts. I know of DONs who have been fired from their positions after making racist comments to African AAmerican nurses. When I was in LPN school I went to a branch of a community college here in Mississippi. In order to go to RN school, I would have had to go to another town to the main branch. The head administrator at the brach I was attending (An older white gentleman who everybody loved) advised me not to apply for RN school at this college because the Nursing insrtuctors were racist and harder on the black students. He advised me to go to en entirely different college.And the sad thing about it is that here in the south, they all profess to be Christians. You can't beat them going to church on Sunday, but of course that is the most segregated place in the world is church.(At my place of worship all races are worshiping together, but of course that is a another subject). Thats what is so sad about it. A lot of people refuse to accept the fact that there is racism even in our line of work. Of course they don't see it because its shameful to them. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
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    This happens outside of Nursing as well. My friend's madien name was Sanchez. She got married. When she had children she was applying for food assistence and the case worker asked about her "papers/greencard". Ummmm, she was born here! It's happening.
    Last edit by mudd68 on Sep 7, '12 : Reason: left word out
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    Quote from ablpn
    Again, people who are NOT African American can not speak on it. They are not black and have not had our experiences with trying to prove that we are equal and just as good a nurse as our white counterparts. I know of DONs who have been fired from their positions after making racist comments to African AAmerican nurses. When I was in LPN school I went to a branch of a community college here in Mississippi. In order to go to RN school, I would have had to go to another town to the main branch. The head administrator at the brach I was attending (An older white gentleman who everybody loved) advised me not to apply for RN school at this college because the Nursing insrtuctors were racist and harder on the black students. He advised me to go to en entirely different college.And the sad thing about it is that here in the south, they all profess to be Christians. You can't beat them going to church on Sunday, but of course that is the most segregated place in the world is church.(At my place of worship all races are worshiping together, but of course that is a another subject). Thats what is so sad about it. A lot of people refuse to accept the fact that there is racism even in our line of work. Of course they don't see it because its shameful to them. Excuses, excuses, excuses.
    Oh, I'm sorry. I know this might not be very PC, but racism is racism, no matter who it is against. And white people are not the only people who can be racist, just like they can be discriminated against. You assume that white Southerners are racist? Do you think maybe that is racist, assuming that just based on the color of their skin and their geographical location? What about African American preachers who encourage race warfare? Racism works for everyone you know. Offering positions and scholarships based on the color of your skin is wrong, and I HAVE seen it many times, not intended for white people.
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    No I don't asume all white people are racist. I have white people all through my family.I dont agree with anyone who encourages race warfare. I worship with white people, mexican, asian ect. Not only that but these people are my friends and we are at each others homes as real spiritual brothers and sisters. their children have spent many a night at my house and mine at theirs.But some of them have been disowned by their families because they stooped so low as to befriend a black person. I have several cousins who are married to white southerners. My husbands grandfather is white. And MY grandfather, My dad's father, is white. He and my grandmother had 14 children. But even they are discriminated against for marrying into black families. I'm not stupid. I know that all white people are not predjudice. Bu i'm not naive either. Even dogs have more sense than racist people, white or black. When have you seen a black dog only wanting to be around other black dogs or a white dog only wanting to be around other white dogs? I am saying that racism in the medical field does exist. Thats what I'm saying.
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    Quote from ablpn
    Unfortunately this is very true! If you are not a minority, you may not understand. I am from the south and have witnessed applications being thrown in the trash can of people with ethnic names specifically African American names. They may not throw out one that says "Chang" but they will certainly throw out a "LaQuisha" or "Martavion". Lets face it folks, predjudice and racism still exist and in some places its on the rise. It is sad but its true. I have found that in my area, I have to really be on top of my game and work extra hard because of my race in order to get positions that my white counterparts are applying for.
    Ummm... You witnessed someone in HR throw applications in the trash only because they had "African-American" names on them? The person in HR told you, an African-American, that was the reason they were being thrown away? I don't know what to think. My first thought is what kind of idiot do you work for? Someone that is trying to set them-self up for a lawsuit, or perhaps you just ASSUMED that is why they were thrown away.

    I read a study years ago in Sociology about racial bias and by far the most biased people were educated blacks against less educated blacks.
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    Quote from Jeweles26
    Oh, I'm sorry. I know this might not be very PC, but racism is racism, no matter who it is against. And white people are not the only people who can be racist, just like they can be discriminated against. You assume that white Southerners are racist? Do you think maybe that is racist, assuming that just based on the color of their skin and their geographical location? What about African American preachers who encourage race warfare? Racism works for everyone you know. Offering positions and scholarships based on the color of your skin is wrong, and I HAVE seen it many times, not intended for white people.
    ...and sexism is sexism. When I was searching for scholarships the VAST majority I found were for minorities and women. If you were a female minority you had it made. There were more scholarships than you would be able to apply for. Do a google search for scholarships for single mothers then do one for single fathers and see how big of a disparity there is.
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    Quote from HM-8404
    ...and sexism is sexism. When I was searching for scholarships the VAST majority I found were for minorities and women. If you were a female minority you had it made. There were more scholarships than you would be able to apply for. Do a google search for scholarships for single mothers then do one for single fathers and see how big of a disparity there is.
    Yup, I totally agree with you. I think in the interest of making things "fair", we have made things the complete opposite of it. When not everyone is eligible to have the same things, with all other things being equal except for race/age/gender/etc.. that is considered NOT fair. What should matter is our need, our skills, our abilities. Not the color of our skin, how many birthdays we have had or the dangly thing between our legs.

    Pardon my bluntness, but this topic really grinds my gears.
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    Quote from HouTx
    My ethnicity is WASP - but I agree with the OP. In fact, it is such an "open secret" that I know of three people in my grad school classes who anglicized their first names for professional reasons. One of my current colleagues (African American) legally changed her first name when she was pursuing her doctorate in public health after being advised to do so by an influential professor.

    I do know that having an unusual or weird first name is a real disadvantage in some professions because it detracts from the gravitas that they need to project. Can you imagine a Supreme Court Justice named Moonbeam or Apple?

    I have no solution - wish I did.
    The only Apple I know of has a blonde, blue eyed mother. Not sure if we're discussing racism or "alternative names."
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    I will agree that this does still happen this day and age, even though it shouldn't. I'm sure a lot of it is subconscious on the part of the hiring manager. But it happens all the same.

    Since black parents know what kind of discrimination is out there, I can't help but wonder why they name their daughters names like "Sharika" or "Latonja". It's their right, for sure. And they should be able to embrace their own culture. But the fact remains that those names carry certain connotations, whether we like it or not. Why would you limit your child that way, fair or unfair?
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    Quote from ablpn
    Unfortunately this is very true! If you are not a minority, you may not understand. I am from the south and have witnessed applications being thrown in the trash can of people with ethnic names specifically African American names. They may not throw out one that says "Chang" but they will certainly throw out a "LaQuisha" or "Martavion".
    *** My question is why would any parent give their child a name (like those mentioned above) that will certainly put them at a disadvantage in life?


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