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No. 30
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Old Oct 10, 2008, 01:50 PM

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No, I haven't decided on a good MSN school. I also enjoy psych and would also like to maybe later do NP in psych.
Did you have any trouble with finding preceptors? Was it a difficult process?
Thanks !!
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No. 31
Old Oct 24, 2008, 11:09 PM

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I got my MSN/MBA from University of Phonenix and it was very challenging, I must say. You must be motivated and determined to complete an one line course. IT can be stressful , especially in the beginning, I thought I had to be on the computer all the time..and it drove me crazy but after I developed my own pace and pattern I was okay.
I have not applied for a position as an educator but feel confident that I am qualified to teach.
Now I look for a job and everyone wants a NP , but I am not sure I want to do that either..

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No. 32
from jlcole45
Old Oct 25, 2008, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by magnolia nurse View Post
I got my MSN/MBA from University of Phonenix and it was very challenging, I must say. You must be motivated and determined to complete an one line course. IT can be stressful , especially in the beginning, I thought I had to be on the computer all the time..and it drove me crazy but after I developed my own pace and pattern I was okay.
I have not applied for a position as an educator but feel confident that I am qualified to teach.
Now I look for a job and everyone wants a NP , but I am not sure I want to do that either..
It's funny how each state differs in requirements. In NC now want you to have the nursing education MSN and not NP or CNS to teach. How flexible are you? Can you move out of the area in order to find work?
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No. 33
from jlcole45
Old Oct 25, 2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by elkpark View Post
I don't say this in any way to denigrate MSNs in education, but I disagree with you that it is a "must" in order to teach. Schools of nursing strive for a "well-rounded" faculty, with faculty members from a wide variety of backgrounds, including a wide variety of clinical backgrounds. Typically, position postings willl specify that they are looking for a particular variety of NP, or a CNM, psych CNS/NP, etc. (Come to think of it, I'm not sure I've ever seen a posting that specified that the school was looking for someone with an MSN in education.) In my experience in nursing academia, the vast majority of my colleagues (and myself) have had our MSNs in an advanced pratice specialty. I've encountered only a few people who actually had their degree in nursing education. Perhaps that will be different in the future, as more programs with an education concentration produce more graduates ...

A little off-topic; sorry! I didn't mean to hijack the thread.

I think the point was that a MSN with an education focus is just that it focuses on teaching you how to TEACH.

Just because you are a great NP or CNS doesn't make you a good teacher. Being a good teacher takes training, education, and experience. And let's face it, beginning nursing students don't need to know how to be a NP or CNS, they need to know how to be a competent, compassionate bedside nurse. This of course does not apply if your teaching in a graduate program.

In some states it is a requirement that nursing instructors either have a degree in nursing education or have earned a post masters certificate in teaching, NC has recently has made this a requirement.

WHY?? Because there were many teachers out there who were great advanced nurses but lacked in teaching skills. It really is a art and science in and of itself. Don't you agree?

That said, I totally agree NO ONE should ever be allowed to teach nursing without having had solid clinical experience. And I think all teachers should be required to maintain a certain number of current clinical hours. How can one teach students if you are totally out of touch with current conditions?
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No. 34
from jlcole45
Old Oct 25, 2008, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by RNPATL View Post
Hi elk -Actually, in North Carolina, the BON recently adopted rules that require that nursing faculty have an MSN in Nursing Education. I believe these rules will become effective sometime in the near future. For me, I am attending Walden University. The program is accredited and has a wonderful research focus. Like some of the other posters have said, online learning can be difficult if the individual is not self motivated. I expect to graduate in December of 2008. But I did want to clarify that some States are beginning to require an MSNeD to teach. But, I also agree with you - some colleges are in such need of nursing faculty that they will hire an MSN regardless of the concentration. This is NOT the case in my area - very few faculty opportunities at all.
Have you looked at jobs recently here in Western NC?
Western Carolina University currently has 3 positions open - now one of them is administrative and one for the graduate program. And many of the community colleges are advertising for at least 1 position. I've been watching for about a year now and there have been several positions advertised.

Oh and South College - a new private ADN program in Asheville just opened, they have their initial NCBON approval, and last time I checked they were looking for a MSN.
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No. 35
from lynswim
Old Oct 25, 2008, 12:25 PM

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At my community college, we either have to have an MSN/education at time of hire, or complete it during employment. Of course, the college pays for classes.
I didn't have any problem finding preceptors, either, even though my husband and I were moving around at the time
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No. 36
from jlcole45
Old Oct 25, 2008, 01:08 PM

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Lynswim,
You mentioned eastern TN. Is your CC driveable from Asheville NC area? I am looking for a full time teaching job - and will be hopefully interview for one soon in NC but the state CC system here is not well funded and in fact is making cuts. I already know that they don't pay for tuition for their teachers (even if its a hiring requirement) and they don't pay for CEU's to maintain licensure. Can you PM or email me more information about teaching in eastern TN?

Thanks!!
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No. 37
from sunnyaria
Old Apr 27, 2009, 09:04 PM

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I am considering Western Governor's University for an MSN. Does anyone have any thoughts about this school? It sounds good, and it is accredited.
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No. 38
Old Jun 22, 2009, 01:33 AM

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Hi everyone,

I am really just starting out. I decided to change careers and get into nursing. I decided to take my prereqs at my community college and get the ADN RN. After which I would be able to do the RN to BSN bridge. I got a call from University of Phoenix telling me about a RN to MSN program that I would be able to do for 3 extra classes since I have a bachelor's, even though it's a BA. They said they won't pick it apart like lots of nursing schools have wanted to.

A couple questions were, do hospitals take the MSN online as seriously and from what I read on this thread, they do seem to.

Also, never heard of this. I would like to know what you can do with an MSN that doesn't specialize in anything. I am not interested in teaching nursing so the regular MSN sounded good since I could bypass the BSN since I have a BA and would be taking the master's classes.

Does any of that sound weird?? Does anyone know of things I could do with that degree??

Thanks for your help!

Lisa
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No. 39
from bosnanurse
Old Jun 22, 2009, 09:28 AM

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You could still work in the hospital or nursing homes in the administration. Some people do it and God bless them. As soon as you finish your ADN program and work a year or two with master in nursing you can do any job in that direction .
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