What happens if we DON'T recommend nursing as a career? - page 5

Please recommend nursing to the smartest, kindest people you know! I'll be retiring in about 20 years and would like some skilled, caring nurses left working to take care of me and my children and... Read More

  1. Visit  Mijourney profile page
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    Well nursedude, you've done it again in your typical "out of the box" style. That should keep "the flames of passion" burning awhile longer. Oh, you forgot to mention that the dog catcher makes more than a nurse.
  2. Visit  HazeK profile page
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    These postings have been fun to read.......... and to see the transition to a conversation about BSN vs ADN vs Diploma education!

    OK, I do have my BSN (...& am proud of it)..... I did work as a CNA while going to college, to increase my patient-contact time.

    I DO agree that many ADN courses have initially more clinical time...
    therefore, ON INITIAL HIRE, the ADN graduates may indeed be more proficient than the BSN grad.....but I do feel my leadership & pathophys courses kicked in promptly.
    I do agree that a good nurse is determined MORE by the individual than the course they attend.

    Do I encourage students to take the BSN over the ADN program?
    ABSOLUTELY! Why? Not the $$ but TO INCREASE THE PROFESSIONALISM & THE PERCEPTION OF NURSING AS A PROFESSION!

    We call nursing a profession...yet it doesn't require a full college degree....

    and yes, I must agree with NurseDude, that one of the reasons we are underpaid is the lack of balls swinging between our legs.....ask ANY other women professionals about THEIR "glass ceiling" problems! Too many people still see nurses as women who work for "a little extra money for their family" or women who go into nursing later in life as " bored little women who need something to fill their time!"

    Hopefully the Million Nurse March media promos/activities will help to explain who we really, truely are: Essential Professionals in the Health Care Industry!

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  3. Visit  OC_An Khe profile page
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    I've just finished reading this thread and others that nursedude has started and continued. Interesting discussions, and I agree with nursedude. Until we nurses demand the three r's... recognition, respect and reward for our profession we will be second class laborers. There has been a gender overtone to this thread so I might as well add to it. Nursing has alot of traits and characteristics that one could argueably describe as feminine. This is fine, however nursinfg is also a female profession. The characteristics of a female dominated work force is no respect, little or no recognition, less monetary rewards, and virtually no one other than our patients and a few MD's listen to our professional opinions. What profession doesn't charge for their services or do we consider room and board nursing service?
    For the record I'm of the male gender, an RN for 25 years have a BSN and I confess an Masters from a business school, still a bedside nurse (prefer the company of RN's to bean counters)
  4. Visit  purplevik profile page
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    I am going to start nursing school in about 1 1/2 weeks. I am beginning to think twice about this career! I am reading all these artiles about salary and working conditions. I got into nursing because i wanted to help the ill, now if it's going to take me away from my family and the working condition are that awful, then I think I sould just go into the law field. from what i read I think the law field pays a whole lot more with little stress and 9-5 and weekend and holiday off. "no wonder there is such a shortage" I was really excited about entering the nursing program, but now i am asking myself if I should really go through this. please tell me that this is just a nightmare and not real! i really think nurses should get paid more and have better working conditions, aren't nurses the ones who take care of a human life "isn't that worth something?" need a little help! any would be great!! all you nurses need respect and better things offered to you!!!!!!!
  5. Visit  buffett profile page
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    I have been reading and following here for a while without posting but I want some feedback (please) on this.

    First off, I am 28, male, and in sales in the computer industry... and bored senseless! Yes making decent money and that is important but not everything!

    I have a BS in bio and am planning to return this fall for a BSN in a 16 month acclerated program. I live in San Diego and most nurse friends I have enjoy their job... one is 29 and makes 80K per year and is not an agency or travel nurse. That may not be the norm and yes it is expensive to live here but others I talked to said you can start pretty close to 50K/year.

    I have always wanted something in the health field and nursing seems to me to be a good choice. You can be a generalist or specialize and switch when you get bored. You can also go back for an NP or CRNA degree for more autonomy and more money.

    I shadowed a CRNA recently and seems like a nice job and they are very in demand as are all nurses right now. I am hoping to get my BSN, go into an ICU dept, work for a year or more then on to CRNA school... but if that doesn't happen I still think with all the publicity and the shortage things will improve in the near future, at least financially...

    Any advice or comments are appreciated.
  6. Visit  Diana61 profile page
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    What's all this about "loving what we do?!? I don't care if the nurse who takes care of me loves or hates what she does, what I care about is if she's competent and relates to me in a professional manner so I can get back safely to my home and my family. I was one of the few nurses who did love what I did, but that didn't pay the bills so now I don't do what I love but I get paid more. Unfortunately a lot of other nurses feel the same as I. Would I recommend nursing to a young person? Not if I was fond of that person. At one time women only became nurses, teachers or secretaries. All women, IQ of 150 down to 90 (or so). This isn't the case today. Women don't have to put up with these working conditions and substandard wages. A women who is in the upper part of her class can for example, become a physician (at a salary many, many, many times that of a nurse). What woman in her right mind would choose nursing if she had the brains and the initiative to do something else. ( or man for that matter?)
  7. Visit  Katmease profile page
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    Originally posted by Diana61
    What's all this about "loving what we do?!? I don't care if the nurse who takes care of me loves or hates what she does, what I care about is if she's competent and relates to me in a professional manner so I can get back safely to my home and my family. I was one of the few nurses who did love what I did, but that didn't pay the bills so now I don't do what I love but I get paid more. Unfortunately a lot of other nurses feel the same as I. Would I recommend nursing to a young person? Not if I was fond of that person. At one time women only became nurses, teachers or secretaries. All women, IQ of 150 down to 90 (or so). This isn't the case today. Women don't have to put up with these working conditions and substandard wages. A women who is in the upper part of her class can for example, become a physician (at a salary many, many, many times that of a nurse). What woman in her right mind would choose nursing if she had the brains and the initiative to do something else. ( or man for that matter?)
    I guess I must not be in my "right mind"; what about you? Yes, I feel that I have the brain capacity to be a physician if I so desired; however, I prefer more patient contact & helping a person deal with what is happening to them, not just making a dx & out the door. You sound incredibly bitter. Grow up & deal with the fact that life is not a bed of roses but you can plant a few as you go.
  8. Visit  Katmease profile page
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    By the way, I used to be an Engineer. Does that make mean that I demoted/demeaned myself? I don't think so.
  9. Visit  Diana61 profile page
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    So you want me to be a doormat? Women have been doormats too long. Yes, I'm angry that nurses have been treated the way they have. But I also am taking action. I've walked away and live an incredibly great life. I refuse to be treated that way. That doesn't mean I have to be selfish and not share what I've learned with others. You must have believed the propaganda the nursing educators have thrown at you. MD's and other health professionals also help people immensely (AND get paid for it). I think women (and men) who go into nursing and think they are the only health professionals who REALLY help the patient are ignorant and nave. (No I don't really think they have a screw loose). Research and talk to other health professionals. They will tell you THEY do help patients, but most aren't so egocentric to think they are the ONLY ones that do. (Only they do it at a higher salary and/or better working conditions.) I was not told the truth when I decided to become a nurse, but I know now. I'm older and wiser and I thank God every day that I don't have to risk my life on a daily basis (nursing is one of the highest risk for injury jobs there is) for a paltry some of money. If you think nurses are bitter just because they speak the truth, then conditions will never change for nurses. My only regret in leaving nursing is I am not able to care for patients, which I love to do. But there are a lot of things in life I love to do. Caring for my family and myself comes first.
  10. Visit  Katmease profile page
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    You're only a doormat if you allow yourself to be. Perhaps it is because I have been a Patrolman (in reference to your post, that can be dangerous when you have a shotgun pointed at your chest-my Hubby's State Trooper & has been shot)for the last 8 years that I have confidence in myself & don't take poop off of others.
    I have been a patient & have had family members that have been patients & yes there is a difference in time spent caring. I've had some incredible doctors that I think the world of & they tell me they just have to put patients through like a revolving door & they regret it. They don't have complete power themselves. I don't know where you are at, but here there is a tremendous amount of respect for nurses (& it is also reflected in their pay).


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