Nursing is pathetic... - page 17

It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the... Read More

  1. by   123lisa
    Originally posted by nursedude:
    Hello,

    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...
  2. by   123lisa
    Hey there, Your vision of nursing careers is right on the money. I just quit a nursing job making 32.00/hr. It was not worth the headache and life threatening stress that I was going through. I could have lost my license at any time or be put in jail. Tell me about a plumber who gets put in jail for sodering the wrong pipe? I was a director of nursing in a Subacute/long term care facility.
    Originally posted by nursedude:
    Hello,

    That about sums it up for me... I am a 34 year old guy and live in Pittsburgh Pa. Have been an RN for 10years. I have done the following in nursing: Cardiotharacic ICU, ER,UR, Case Management...

    THe problems with nursing I have found:
    1) Poor compensation- I have friends that are Registered Plumbers and registered electricians, Certified computer specialists etc. All of them make twice as much $$$ as I do- none of them have a college degree. None of them are exposed to HIV, TB, Hepatitis on a daily basis.
    2) You can't really practice nursing on your own even though you are licensed- See above- The plumber, the electrician and the computer guy all work full time jobs and also do business on the side from home and make money... Did you ever practice nursing on the side? its called illegal...
    3) Nurses are on the bottom of the food chain...Doctors, PA's, CRNP's, Administrators all look down on nurses- at least here in Pittsburgh they do. Nurses here are just another load on the revenue generated by hospitals...
  3. by   123lisa
    I am sure he chose nursing because he wanted to provide care to others. But, I agree with him in that we work like slaves and risk losing our licenses etc....for very low pay in comparison to many other fields. My computer boyfriend loves his career too. But he makes 6 figures. I love nursing and can,t put enough food on the table. What's wrong with this picture??
    Originally posted by katlady123@webtv.net:
    It's to bad you feel this way I work in the E.R.and am constantly exposed to hiv, hepatitis,and a host of other diseases you can protect yourself. Why did you really go into nursing ws it for the money? If it was for that then you missed the whole point of what a nurse is. It was never meant to be anything more than the giving care to those in needof your services if you allow yourself to feel all these negative feeling it's time for a vacation from nursing and try something else for a while or have you considered trying a new area that may have sparked some interest. It might be something to think about?

  4. by   123lisa
    /And what if you and your husband split up? He made more money and probably will have more in retirement years than you. I say you should make more than you do because you are helping humans in their lives. It would be nice to work so hard and be paid what your worth so you can also have a decent retirement. I admire your profession. But we all must fight and take a stand...then may we be compensated for our efforts and compassion.
    Originally posted by Nurse Nola:
    I do not think it is bad to be able to indentify the short-comings of being a nurse.
    I agree that other professions that require less education have less risk involved and more income.
    As a psych nurse, I have a potentially dangerous, albeit exciting vocation. My husband has a great job, so I can afford low pay in order to enjoy my chosen (low pay ) profession.
    I am working with a special sub-set of our society: veterans. For the most part, they are homeless, drug addicted and poorly motivated. I get burned out too. Then I will encounter a patient that I can really help-make a long term difference in his life. That's why I became a Nurse. To make a difference.
    It's okay to be burned out. We need the lows to appreciate the highs.
  5. by   123lisa
    If nursing is your dream, then maybe you should go for it. Have you ever worked in a medical environment? You could go and volunteer at many different facilities. Then you may get a clearer picture of what this nursing attitude is all about. You can even volunteer in the evenings if that fits your schedule better. It would not be good to go through you whole life without knowing if you did the right thing in your career.
    Or, you may want to become a CNA first. You can do that in as little as 4 weeks in some places. That would really give you a taste of reality. And, CNA's make the best nurses. Good luck.
    Originally posted by nursedude:
    You all make me laugh...

    The question was: would you recommend nursing as a career?

    Not, are you burned out?

    I meerly replied with my opinions and that is:Nursing is a pathetic career.

    I did not say anything about: Would you recomend nursing as a vocation?

    My best guess: Nursing as a profession/career will not exist much longer. Instead, RNs will be replaced (as they already are) by less skilled/cheaper EMT'S PARAMEDICS AND NURSE AIDES...
  6. by   nursedude
    My ears were burning....

    I see that the debate is still on. HMMMM...

    So tell me all of you who feel that nursing is such a wonderful career - How is your retirement plan looking? If you work for a hospital do you even have one? Maybe a 403B? Is that plan even transferrable?

    And oh yeah, how is it that many of the patients you treat have a better medical plan than you? Sounds like something before President Lincoln's time....

    ND
  7. by   laurier
    Hey nursedude-
    Aint it great to have burning ears?

    It shows that people are at least thinking about what's going on in nursing...

    I'd rather see that than people walking around like zombies.

    ------------------
  8. by   LisaPRN
    The problem is that the question is a hard one to answer. If nursing was only about what you were taught in nursing school and not what the real world is like, I would definately recommend the field to anyone. But unfortunately politics have gotten involved and have made the profession less than desirable. I love the aspect of hands on patient care, but when you get no respect and not treated as the professionals that we all are.....it gets frustrating to say the least.

    I'm definately not in it for the money, but what other profession makes such an impact on people's lives. And all you get in return is abuse from physicians, patients, visitors, and management. It wears on you after a while.
  9. by   fyrnymph
    I love being a nurse but I find it insulting when other nurses put each other down becasue we want more money
    it is back breaking work that we do
    we put ourselves, family and loved ones at risk
    F. Nightengale is long gone who and what is going to take care of us when we have back backs and old.... I do not want an underapperciated, tired, overworked been treated like she/ he is %hit nurse taking care of me....


    Originally posted by Nurse Nola:
    I do not think it is bad to be able to indentify the short-comings of being a nurse.
    I agree that other professions that require less education have less risk involved and more income.
    As a psych nurse, I have a potentially dangerous, albeit exciting vocation. My husband has a great job, so I can afford low pay in order to enjoy my chosen (low pay ) profession.
    I am working with a special sub-set of our society: veterans. For the most part, they are homeless, drug addicted and poorly motivated. I get burned out too. Then I will encounter a patient that I can really help-make a long term difference in his life. That's why I became a Nurse. To make a difference.
    It's okay to be burned out. We need the lows to appreciate the highs.
  10. by   fyrnymph
    How long have you been a nurse???
    six months???? get abck to me in about five years and lets see how you feel


    Originally posted by jbresolin:
    The pay in nursing is good, but if a person worked all the time they might burn out because of the pace. To do a good job requires emotional and physical energy. I think that if a person was mainly interested in making a lot of money fast, that they'd be better off getting an MBA.
  11. by   Nurse Sunshine
    NurseDude--
    One piece of advice, CHANGE CAREERS! At some point money became more important than caring. While that is unfortunate, it does happen. One must earn a living. I still recommend nursing as a career choice to the right individuals. One must be the right combination of caring, determination and dedication to survive without burning out. We all have needs and limits. Good luck in whatever you do, but please take a break from nursing at least for a short period and then re-evaluate how you view the issues.
  12. by   osiris7
    I'm right there with ya, nursedude. Nursing sucks because it is "women's work" and is therefore grossly undervalued. It wants to be white collar but is blue collar. The other thing is that we male nurses have a double problem: role strain. This phenomenon occurs because people don't quite know where to fit males as nurses. The recent movie "Meet the Parents" featured a male nurse whose occupation was looked down upon. People want to realize their stereotypes about what a nurse is, so they will do things like assume that a male nurse must be gay. We just don't fit, which is part of what makes a difficult job for us even more difficult.
    Males are often found in the more "macho" areas of nursing, like ER and Psych, but beyond those type areas, we just don't fit. I would love to get out of the profession, but I am currently working on getting more education so that I can do just that. I would never advise a daughter or niece of mine to go into the profession. Doctors and hospitals work to make sure that we fight amongst ourselves rather than fight the powers that be, and we are grossly undervalued.
  13. by   thriftymom30
    I just want to say this is a very interesting thread. I can see both sides.

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