New Grad Leaving Hospital for Office Job - page 4
Hello everyone,Just need some advice on leaving a hospital job for office work. I just graduated a few months ago, and took a job in a hospital. At first I absolutely loved it, but now I hate it and... Read More
Dec 5, '12The reason you are getting the answer you have received is because your posts are offensive.
I do not like beside nursing period. I'm in school for another bachelors degree to get away from the bedside. Then after I graduate with the 2nd bachelors degree I'm headed to law school for healthcare law.
With that said I would never ever say that bedside nursing is demeaning. Are you kidding? Just because you don't like it doesn't make it demeaning and beneath you. You have insulted a lot of the members on this site just by saying that. What you should have said was I don't like bedside nursing do I have to do it to become an NP. Trust me none one likes cleaning up poop. I know I don't and I'm not one to just leave them sitting in it to run find the PCT. Heck I cleaned up a code brown today twice. I have had doctors help clean patients up. Cleaning up poop is the least of my worries working at the bedside.
If you take the other job you might want to work PRN in the hospital to remain competitive for the NP program. And think about what you post on this site. Don't ask for advice and insult the people you are asking the advice from. Maybe you should look into medical school instead of becoming a NP.
Dec 5, '12By any chance, was your original plan to become a doctor? Just wondering.
You mention ll the things you'll get to do alongside the FNP you'll be working with. Have you been given a job description? Just remember, you will be an RN, not an FNP intern.
Some of most meaningful moments in the hospital involved poop. Diarrhea. Sometimes uncontrollable, along with blood pouring out of many orifices, and hematemesis. On a pediatric oncology unit. Dying children pooping themselves in their darkest days, some of which never saw their homes again. It was my humble pleasure to do anything to make them feel even an ounce of comfort.
Poop or not, I think hospital experience is crucial for any graduate/AP degree in nursing.
Dec 5, '12You're gonna have poop in an office setting too. People poop everywhere. I'd rather clean up some poop than deal with a nasty wound vac, gross toenails or a dirty peri area. Nursing has tons of gross aspects, and they are not limited to the hospital.
Also, like someone already said, you are going to be working as a RN at the office and are not there to shadow the FNP. Why not just ask to shadow a FNP somewhere to get the closer look you are seeking?
Dec 5, '12Have you thought of just going back to school to be a PA? Nursing is not for everyone. Some love it, some don't. Nothing bothers me except peoples deliberate nasty attitudes, you can almost always control your attitude but not your bowels! If you do a PA program, I don't think it really matters where you work in the healthcare field.
Dec 5, '12I was going to ask, "with all the booksmarts and amazing intelligence, why did you choose Nursing and not something like Neuroscience?"
If you really want to do health-care related things but not so much hands-on stuff, there's plenty of academia-level career paths as well. You don't mention your age, but if I were to make a guess from your posts, you're probably still pretty young and have plenty of time left for all the schooling involved.
Dec 6, '12Quote from IcySageNurseI'm glad you got some answers you wanted. The nurses who responded to you aren't crabby they are offended and your statements were....to be honest offensive and rude. I actually think the membership has showed restraint in their responses to your statements and you have gotten some very good advice.Thank all of you latest posters - I was starting to think all nurses were this crabby! And I agree with the quoted above...as a floor nurse, I feel I do learn more nursing skills...but these are skills I would rarely use as a provider. In an office, wouldn't I be doing a lot more thinking in terms of triaging and seeing patients, etc. in a hospital you don't seem to do as much critical thinking, ICU aside.
I also don't believe that nurses are "task monkey's" that can "no longer think or communicate or collaborate" effectively......I find that personally offensive as well. Bedside nurses are the back bone of the medical machine who might have plenty of tasks that they have to complete..... but are far from mindless robots performing endless repetitive tasks. I guess that is where we will have to agree to disagree.
If you find med-surg so....demeaning .....then seek another area of expertise like critical care or emergency medicine......I truly believe, in going to the office setting, that you will lose/not develop critical thinking skills that will be an advantage to you in being the better candidate when you apply to a FNP program. I also believe it will make you a superior NP when/if you complete a program.
You have had members that are NPs, some of which do have a doctorate level education, tell you to remain in the hospital setting to gain valuable experience. It remains however....completely your choice. But once in the office.....your responsibilities won't be to shadow the FNP....you will have most of your tasks on paperwork and other duties independent of the FNP....I truly think you will be disappointed.
I wish you the best.Last edit by Esme12 on Dec 6, '12 : Reason: clairified
Dec 6, '12There should be no offense taken. Nursing is a job and jobs change. Much of nursing is all about customer service now - especially in hospital nursing. Does this mean you intended to be a waitress and are only capable of being a waitress when you went into nursing? No, but there it is. It's changed before our very eyes. Don't take it as a personal offense. These are not good times for nursing, because that is what the job has regressed into being for most nurses, and it has to do with making the case to remove nurses from the picture. It's been a calculated move by administration.
All the magical talk simply is silly. I agree a person needs experience before becoming an NP, but then again, NP is not nursing, and the road to becoming an NP has requirements and of course you must meet those requirements. So, basically I am all for cutting the crap and getting down to it. OP, Go get experience in the area you intend to work. Having the right or what ever to become an NP is just more of the silly stuff when all you need is to meet the requirements and to pay the money. Just go find out what your requirements are and then figure out how you will meet those. There is no magic in nursing, or being an NP. But healthcare is full of BS and you have to try not to get taken for a ride as you well know.
Dec 6, '12My poll is showing 75% recommending the hospital. Really?
The poll is showing this because the voters are bedside nurse. Poll some NPs working in primary care and see what they think
Dec 6, '12Ummm. I'm not a bedside nurse and haven't been for 4 years. How are you so sure the responders are bedside nurses?
Dec 6, '12Quote from BlueDevil,DNPReally? How many office jobs have you held? You may not have the same type of patients in an office as you do in an acute care setting but you DO have patients and physicians. Yes, office nurses do phone triage and have scheduled patients. Depending on the setting, nurses are more hands-on than the providers! I worked in an ENT office and the doc and PA had a nurse in the room with him assisting with the exam. We'd hand them the appropriate equipment for routine exams and the doc would do minor procedures in the office, ranging from Botox injections to placing ear tube to an uvulectomy. Yes, the doctor removed a pts uvula in the office and I was assisting. I also worked in allergy and asthma and nurses (the practice didn't hire any MAs) did all the testing, the injections, and even had to dilute the allergy extract down if necessary. The allergy practice also employed NPs.You won't learn anything valuable in an office. If you want to be a NP, you should be in an acute care environment. #1, I doubt you will be a competitive applicant for any program worth attending if you don't, and #2, you won't do well.
What I'm trying to say is don't turn down the job just because you don't think it'll be beneficial to your NP goal. Most offices employ midlevels and this will be a good way to see if that's up your alley. Working with primary care you see a wide variety of pts and conditions and are the center of their care.
Dec 6, '12Go for the office job. If the NP Program will not need you to work acute longer.
I didn't find your post offensive. There are many out there and not everyone is cut out for each one. It is perfectly ok not to like med-surg and want to move on. And you cleared up the idea that you let your patients sit in their body fluids - you did not give bad care to your patients at all.
You should check with the schools you are thinking of applying to for what kinds of experience they want. Two of the people in my RN to BSN class were nurses for a year when they entered the program. After graduation, they immediately applied to become NP's and got in and one graduated recently and one is close.
I worked in a doctor's office - I got to do lots of procedures; start IV's, assist with minor surgeries, help deliver a baby (pregnant mom came in complaining of a back ache and didn't think she was in labor - we checked and she was 10 cm! Baby came in the doc's office before the ambulance got there). It isn't all phone calls and paperwork depending on where you end up working. Maybe make that part of your interview process - what exactly do the RN's get to do?
Get some more information from the NP Program before you make a decision. But I'm with ya on not liking med-surg.
(Oh - and poop happens in L&D, ER, Outpt. surgery, GI Lab, Cath Lab, etc.).
Dec 6, '12Are you going to feel better when you are changing out printer cartridges? Seriously office work can be quite demeaning as well. Just something to think about.
Dec 6, '12Quote from IcySageNurseI'm sorry...are you really serious?And after having a patient diarrhea all over the bed while working in med/surg and me being the one expected to clean it, I just decided to throw in the towel. It's not worth it for the pay, really.
I do this for free, it's part of being a mom.