MD/nursing: Is one more scientific than the other? - page 2

by susanna

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Hi, Wondering if anyone can give me some ingisht/feedback. I'm taking the prerequisites(Micobiology,Organic, ect) to go to either nursing or medical school at a community college and everyone here (my community college has a... Read More


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    Quote from msdeeva
    Oh, I almost forgot. I made a mistake with the G.P.A. of my friend who went to Harvard med (now finishing up her 3rd year). She had a 3.6, not a 3.7. Sorry about that Please excuse all my typos, I haven't slept in 2 days. Oh and I also wanted to address the community college issue. An "A" is an "A." If you can take your premed requirements at a non-competitive school, than do it. You also pay less in tuition. When I mean non-competitive, that does not mean less quality, it means that you do not necessarily have to compete with Albert Einsteins in a class based on a curve.
    Ok i agree that an A is an A but an admissions committee is ABSOLUTELY going to realize that an A at an Ivy league school is most likely harder than an A at a community college or even university. On paper a gpa is a gpa but when people are looking and selecting applicants then what school you go to could certainly affect the weight that the give to your gpa. This is why a lot of premeds at my school have been advised to save the bulk of their sciences (upper levels) for when they enroll in a 4 yr college as adcoms like to see this. This all is dependant upon the school and I agree that you should major in something that you like and are good at as it will increase the likelyhood that you will stay motivated and do well in your classes.
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    You're are absolutely right about an A from and Ivy league being different from a community college level course. I would think that too, but in my experience with conversing with several California admissions counselors and committee members, it's not a huge difference. In fact it almost seemed to be not worth the money to spend going straight to a 4 year university just so one could say, "See look, I took my science prereqs at a top university." Also, I should have clarified a bit more. I am not saying that one should forgoe going straight to a university, I am just saying that there are other ways that may be easier (and I do not mean lower quality education). Instead of competing for a grade based on a ridiculous curve, why not learn at a decent pace and without the competition? If I had known this, I would have done things a lot differently and have a lot less debt . BTW, I have come to these conclusions based on my college experiences, other's experiences, and a books like Becoming a Physician, and others. Believe me when I say, it's all about the grades, and a 4.0 from a 4 year college student who transferred from a community college would be looked upon as more competitive than a 3.5 from a 4-year top university student. Sad, but true. Of course grades are not the only criteria, but they are important. So like I have said before, "work smart, not hard."



    Quote from smkoepke
    Ok i agree that an A is an A but an admissions committee is ABSOLUTELY going to realize that an A at an Ivy league school is most likely harder than an A at a community college or even university. On paper a gpa is a gpa but when people are looking and selecting applicants then what school you go to could certainly affect the weight that the give to your gpa. This is why a lot of premeds at my school have been advised to save the bulk of their sciences (upper levels) for when they enroll in a 4 yr college as adcoms like to see this. This all is dependant upon the school and I agree that you should major in something that you like and are good at as it will increase the likelyhood that you will stay motivated and do well in your classes.
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    Deeva, you can get off your high horse, because I was just trying to give the OP a little advice about the difference between medicine and nursing and the requirements for each (being someone who has been pre-med and has actually completed nursing school-- you can't claim the latter). You don't need to brag to me, cause quite honestly, I really don't care-- I don't know why you feel as though you have something to prove. And if med school is so easy to get into, why didn't you go, huh? Maybe you couldn't even get into a lowly osteopathic school. You really get bent out of shape for someone who's not a physician, a med student, or even a nurse. You've just earned yourself a place on my ignore list.....
    Last edit by EmeraldNYL on May 8, '04
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    First of all, I really don't have time for your petty attitude and immaturity. You are the one that decided to get on a high horse and show out. May I remind you that you were the one who decided to post your comments about how much you know about getting into medical school and how your fiance had to apply twice to osteopathic school (so you're the expert, right?), and how you know everything because you went to a "big-time premed college." I don't care that you are a new nurse which seems to make you think that you are the authority on everything medically related. That has no bearing on the fact that you gave incomplete and one sided advice to the original poster, and tried to discount advice from others. Why don't you get your story straight too. Read my postings and you'll find out that I decided that I didn't want to become an M.D. I didn't waste my time and apply, because I decided that I DIDN'T want to become a doctor. I have other aspirations, and it ain't just being a new RN. In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if someday you were working for me. Bottom line, if you hadn't tried to attack other forum users, you would not have received a negative response. And to turn around and act like you didn't do anything wrong makes you look schizo.

    By the way, I'm not wasting anymore of my precious study time on you, because you are pathetic.

    Peace

    Quote from EmeraldNYL
    Deeva, you can get off your high horse, because I was just trying to give the OP a little advice about the difference between medicine and nursing and the requirements for each (being someone who has been pre-med and has actually completed nursing school-- you can't claim the latter). You don't need to brag to me, cause quite honestly, I really don't care-- I don't know why you feel as though you have something to prove. And if med school is so easy to get into, why didn't you go, huh? Maybe you couldn't even get into a lowly osteopathic school. You really get bent out of shape for someone who's not a physician, a med student, or even a nurse. You've just earned yourself a place on my block list.....
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    Let's not make it personal and keep to the subject matter.

    night
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    Breath deep everyone. Remember that you need to keep this type of personal stuff to PM's.
    No personal attacks! OK?
    -Russell
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    I don't want to cause any trouble, but I agree with MSDEEVA. Majoring in a science and going to a top university is not a prerequisite to getting into med school. I went to a very small private institution and I knew someone who was accepted at both Harvard and Hopkins. This discussion should not have traveled down this road. Some of the information that was put out initially was incorrect. The op had a question and it should have been answered correctly. No offense, Emerald.
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    edited by Moderator...
    Last edit by nightingale on May 9, '04
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    Awesome thread until the fighting.

    Shel
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    Let's carry on with the conversation of the topic.


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