I definitely not recommend nursing. - page 2

I basically gave up 2 years of my sons lives when they were 8 and 10 to complete my RN. I never saw them awake till the weekend. I had school from 0630 till 12:45 and worked as a secretary on a... Read More

  1. by   rnirma
    For the most part I think nurses enjoy their
    jobs. but we do sacrifice time with our families. I have been a R.N. for eleven years and for the first 10 years I sacrificed time with the family during the holidays. I have worked most Thanksgiving, Christmas, New Years, Easter and other Holidays. I have worked most shifts especially nights so that I could be with my family on the holidays, the price was losing sleep and feeling burned out except for the vacations when I was able to sleep more than two nights in a row. I wish someone would have told me what I would have had to sacrifice before entering Nursing School. I would have gone on to graduate and work as a school teacher. I know that most jobs and careers have their disadvantages, but giving up my weekends and holidays for a paycheck is more than I could handle. I now work as a Patient Educator, and a Childbirth Instructor. I set my own hours and have all the major holidays off. I enjoy what I do and has been possible only because of the Nursing Degree I earned.
  2. by   deathnurse
    Originally posted by shee1a:
    As for the money. I have read that nurses in Boston, MA make 25-35 an hour. Agency nurses also make decent money I have seen some advertisements for pay to 34 an hour. Im sure both of these already include diffs. I hope yours doesnt already include your diffs.
    Agency nurses usually don't have benefits. It's amazing that other "professionals" make this amount of money WITH benefits included. Nursing, again, is the exception. Cheap labour.
  3. by   deathnurse
    Originally posted by Jeanbean:
    I'm sorry to hear that you're so frustrated. I was very frustrated so I changed jobs and just started a new job as a home health nurse 1 month ago. I love it- I get lots of one-on-one time w/ pts and a lot of what I do is teaching. The pay varies day to day since it is based on $30 per-visit. I live in a mid-size town so I don't have to do alot of driving (10-30mi/day).
    Thirty dollars a visit. And you are using your OWN car, gas, tires, wear and tear, payments, cell-phone if you can afford it, and probably didn't tell your insurance company that you are using your car for business.

    Thirty dollars a visit. A nurse will get into their own car on company time, occasionally reimbursed a pittance for milage.

    You can't get a plumber to cross the street in a COMPANY-OWNED vehicle for less than $80.00.

    Nursing is pathetic.

    Continue the fight for more money and respect.

  4. by   OBNURSE81
    Originally posted by rnirma:
    For the most part I think nurses enjoy their
    jobs. but we do sacrifice time with our families.
    I agree with you and I highly recommend full time nursing in a hospital setting if you want to miss watching your kids grow up, have a babysitter raise them, work your days off, be so tired that when you are home you resemble a zombie. Your husband/wife and children will be subjected to mood swings and short tempers. When you have no more left to to give mentally and physically, and if you are lucky enough to have a family left, you will either remove yourself from nursing or refocus. ( I feel I am qualified to say this as I have been in nursing for 23 years. Most of these years were in the "trenches" with you all! ) Anyone can do what I did, which was refocus figure out how you can make nursing fit into your lifestyle. I really do love nursing, just not the kind of nursing we are expected to do now in a hospital setting. The opportunities are endless if you are creative. I have rediscovered the joy of nursing and will never again put myself or my family second to my job. So what if they call me "cranky" because I work only when I want to and where I want to. The patients get the best of me, and so do my co-workers!. Life is short (we know that right?) so be happy figure out how to be a nurse on your terms. By the way I live in a small rural community, and yes I have to work full time. Hummm...am I making a living? YES!

  5. by   asdfghjkl
    Nursing is a very noble profession. Unfortunately, due to the paperwork required, understaffing, nurses can't do their best. Nurses are overworked, harassed, disrespected by both patients and coworkers. I sympathize with Tremmi. However, you can still do it for the money. Here in California, there are lots of opportunities, better pay for RN's.Especially because you have ICU experience, you can do whatever you want- go into legal practice, if you want. Or set up your own business- registry, for example.Make it work for you, rather than against you. Good luck.

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  6. by   PopTart
    I'm in Austin, Texas and a hospital staff nurse makes $16-$18/hour--but agency nurses or prn's in the hospital nursing pool make $25-$30/hour. I'm staying at home with my 1 1/2 year old right now but when I go back to work I will never be a staff nurse again. I'm tired of doing the same work as prn's and agency nurses, working holidays when they don't have to, being taken for granted when they are thanked just for showing up and earning $10 less per hour than they do.

    [This message has been edited by PopTart (edited January 20, 2001).]
  7. by   deLadyPanther
    I am an BSN/RN ... I have been a nurse for twenty-four years. Most of that time spent in the emergency department ... I have also worked ICU, CCU and MedSurg (ugh!). My all time love is the emergency department. For two years I was the nurse manager of the pediatric department in a large community health center. My point? There are so many areas of nursing to choose from. In California RN can easily make $25-45/hr depending their needs.
    I was a single parent when I children were small. I chose to work nights so that I would have the days to spend with them and so that I would be able to attend school. It worked well for us. The only drawback is as I reflect back, I am not sure my children understand the sacrafices I made in order to be available to them during the day.
    Hang in there and find your niche!
  8. by   trinasmom
    I definately would not recommend nursing as a career. First of all it is not a career it is a job. A job that does not pay as much as a garbage collector. I work 7a to 7p which is really 645 to 745 or 8p. The regular 3-11 staff hates the 12 hour nurses for whatever reason so the charge nurse changes our assignments and gives us all the admissions. Yes, the nurse manager was informed and told the charge nurse to stop. She did not. I go home and I am exhausted and all I can do is go to sleep. I get depressed the day before I have to go to work. I am currently looking into starting my own business in the next 6 months if I can hold out that long. I hope to start a pet sitting business. Hopefully it will cut down on some of the midnight and 5am calls to see if I can work. There is no support from management and coworkers are just as stressed. What are you supposed to do when you haved 2 patients in 2 different rooms trying their best to fall out of bed with no one to help you watch them and the charge nurse and supervisor just says too bad. I hope if I get out this time I never have to go back to nursing.
    Janet

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  9. by   dardoolittle
    Nursing is a career if you do want to take on everything else that goes along with it. The stress is very high I'd like to know the %of nurses that suffer major depression and thoughts of suicide! I'm sure they are right up there with police officers. But, I feel it's all worth it when you get one patient that is appreciative of the care and time(no matter how little) that is given them and soothes their worries. I believe you need the "CALLING." If you don't have it the frustration isn't worth it!
  10. by   nursedude
    $18- $25.00 an hour?

    How sad.

    Postal workers start out at about $17.00/hr. Garbage men at $16.00/hr and Bus Drivers close to $19.00/hr.

    I know I know. I am too pessimistic but come on. No professional human being with 10 years as a nurse should be making any less that $30.00/hr. As another person mentioned a plumber doesnt start his truck for that! What is becoming of the nurses accross this nation? They are beiog sold out by hospitals for "imported workers"? Come on, would any of you other professional nurses feel comfortable allowing one of those immigrant nurses to take care of your mom, dad, daughter, son, grandmother?

    I know, it's easy for me to poke all these questions since I left nursing but guess what? I really didn't want to! I'd love to be back in an ER working a code or pumping an OD's stomach or patching a trauma together but I could no longer afford to!

    Instead I quit. My employer(s) would not hear my requests so I cut their staff by one.

    To those of you that feel that I am preaching from a soapbox all I can say is "I don't care", rather, "why do you all condone such crap?"
  11. by   Yana
    It's a little frustrating reading your posts guys!
    Sorry, but I have some silly questions...
    How about continuing education? NP,MS etc...
    Does it make life better or worse for those nrses? Do they also have to work long hours and be tired all the time?
  12. by   lsmo
    Got to respond to this one-- been a nurse for 16 years in the hospital setting. I have absolutely LOVED my work at times, but frequently found myself HATING my job. For years I took for granted that the "job" or workplace issues that frustrated me were not my responsibilty--out of my control. I found myself conflicted and in "fight or flight" regarding my nursing career. However, over the years I have learned much about what it takes to survive in nursing. I discovered that it started with my unmet needs and expectations--they were most definitely not being met. Working short staffed, administators redesigning the workforce and care delivery systems, stagnant pay and cuts in benefits, etc. etc. I reached the end of my rope. I came to realize that I had become a very unhappy person. I looked around me and many of my coworkers were also very unhappy and, in fact, we were not doing our health any favors dragging all that energy-sapping frustration around. That is when I realized that first and foremost, nurses in general, need to do a better job of taking care of themselves. If our work life isn't what we want--make a change. It won't benefit your health or co-workers, your family, your mate etc. if you are a whining, crabbin' depressed, or burned-out human being. Work is just that, work--it is only as satisfying or fulfilling as you make it. Yea, nursing involves the work of caring and takes many talents, but none so important as CARING for self. It is not reality to think that being a caring person is enough to sustain you in nursing. (Which makes me just cringe when I read about it being a "calling"!!!UGH). Typically, administrators are largely in control of a nurses work "environment" and nurses would agree that nurses need to be "in charge" of their "practice". I wonder how many nurses are really stepping back from their frustrations and thinking about how we can make our work environment a priority. To stand together as we insist on work environment improvements that will enable us to do what we do--the way it should be done. We need more nurses who strategize ways to get to this goal, to work through the problems we are facing, and who insist on only the best for our work life and our patients. Anything less is unacceptable. Sadly,t nursing's huge responsibility and stressful work environmenst devour many of our spirits, and our creativity or commitment is crushed. So, what worked for me was to acknowledge that working conditions need overhauled--but was my responsibility to remain physically, and mentally healthy FOR MYSELF. I have begun to take action. I encourage any of you who still have the stamina to do so as well. If nothing else, you will personally benefit from the change you have created for your own health and well-being. In addition, I encourage you to purge your frustration via letter writing to your politicians, your schools of nursing, the editor of your local paper to let them know what it is you need to do the job of nursing--to KEEP doing the job of nursing. Get heard! Stand up and change your own behavior first--see how you will positively impact those around you. I want to see many things in nursing change for the better. Currently, my survival tactic is to take advantage of my employers tuition reimbursement and am seeking my MSN. I would love to be a part of the solution somehow. Although I plan to remain involved in bedside care, perhaps my additional eduation will afford me more opportunities to influence others. Perhaps in a teaching role, I could influence incoming nursing students regarding survival techniques and impart on them, how important it is to take care of ourselves FIRST...never to allow thinking that to work in a caring profession is to deny yourself proper financial security or self-respect or quality of life. I would like to see nurses be leaders in moving this agenda forward. To be examples for all industry and businesses as to how to CARE for themselves and in doing so create a quality work life and work environment that invites new recruits and retention, rather than repels new and seasoned talent..This will surely not happen without working nurses standing up to unfair labor practices, or ruffling feathers. What better motivation to nurture your physical, mental, and emotional health--I'm gearing up for the challenge--LSMO RNC



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    L.Smo RN
  13. by   frann
    amen

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