Does having ONLY a MSN-RN allow one to work in a magnet facility?

missnurse01, MSN, RN · Apr 23, 2013

I would explain your career goals when you apply, that you are going for your masters instead of bsn. also explain what bachelor's you are looking at and why.

we are magnet and hire adns all the time, with the stipulation that they need to have bsn in 5 years. If you were already enrolled in msn then it would increase your chance for hire.

good luck

Home Health Columnist / Guide · Apr 23, 2013

Most Philadelphia area Magnet hospitals only hiring new RN's with BSN or MSN as initial degree for past 2 years. Look to see job ads in your area.

BA degree in anything other than nursing not considered.

Institute of Medicine and ANCC have made recommendation that for Magnet facility 80% RN staff have BSN by 2020.

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HouTx, BSN, MSN, EdD · Apr 23, 2013

Since I am unfamiliar with the specific multi-media degree you have in mind, please forgive my ignorance . . . but . . . I think you may be somewhat mistaken in your assumption about moving into management and teaching positions. I am speaking from the perspective of a long (loooooonnnnnggg) time nurse educator (BSN, MSN, EdD) who has also held various levels of management jobs along the way. I have been an instructional designer & elearning developer in various platforms since the days of MS-DOS.

I would recommend that you focus on nursing degrees and supplement them with certificates/training in multimedia. This would support your career advancement in a way that sends a very clear signal to potential employers. It will also save you a ton of $, because that multi-media degree will not be inexpensive. OTOH, if you go for an accelerated BSN/MSN combo, you can eliminate a lot of courses along the way because they allow you to just take the grad-level course instead of both the undergrad & graduate courses.

The hard reality of healthcare -- most organizations do not invest a lot of money in any sort of technology that does not directly support clinical functions. These sorts of 'specialty services' are likely to be outsourced since they are needed so rarely. So, a generic multi-media degree would not be very valuable. Those degrees are not very marketable; even very talented graphic design/multimedia folks make shockingly low salaries. Nowadays, most nurse educators who work in organizations that have online staff education are expected to acquire elearning skills - so this type of continuing education is supported by the employer.

If you want to become an educator, you will need to focus on that career path in your MSN program. This will probably provide you with foundational courses in instructional design, and other fundamentals. You will probably need to do some cross-over courses (in another department/college) to obtain the necessary knowledge in educational law, educational psychology, etc. But there are a ton of very high quality training/certification software courses & many of them are online.

Most importantly, you will need to get your foot in the 'education' door.... non-academic nursing education jobs are rarely offered to people who do not have any experience in education/staff development. An easy way to start out is by becoming a BLS (ACLS, TNCC, etc) instructor. You can also volunteer to participate in any staff development/inservice activities that come your way.

PMFB-RN, RN · Apr 25, 2013

I am currently completing my ADN program in a community college. I really want to work in a magnet hospital, but I DO NOT want to get a BSN; rather I would like to pursue a Bachelors degree in multimedia, as I feel it’s much more potent for teaching and management positions with a MSN. My question is:
Can I get into a magnet hospital with a ADN->(Any BA/BS degree)-> MSN degree?
Or do I HAVE TO get a BSN?
Thank you,
Nate S. – ST, to be RN

*** Lots of Magnet hospitals hire new grads with ADNs. You also don't need any sort of bachelors degree to earn an MSN. You can go ADN to MSN and skip the BSN (or any other bachelors degree) if you want.

Some hospitals, both Magnet and non Magnet, will only hire new grads with BSNs or MSNs. I suggest finding out what the hospitals you want to work in want and obtaining it.

Why do you want to work at a Magnet hospital? In my area Magnet hospitals have a well deserved reputation as not being good places to work.

Misskala · Apr 28, 2013

*** Lots of Magnet hospitals hire new grads with ADNs. You also don't need any sort of bachelors degree to earn an MSN. You can go ADN to MSN and skip the BSN (or any other bachelors degree) if you want.
Some hospitals, both Magnet and non Magnet, will only hire new grads with BSNs or MSNs. I suggest finding out what the hospitals you want to work in want and obtaining it.
Why do you want to work at a Magnet hospital? In my area Magnet hospitals have a well deserved reputation as not being good places to work.[/QUOTE]
Really? Can you explain? I've never heard this. (I'm ADN with a previous BA in another field, not sure I want to sink $20K in another Bachelors-espec. BSN as it doesn't really teach me much more ) I will be following this thread to learn more about how Magnet hospital hire/what they want degree wise and the time frame. Thanks!

salvadordolly · Apr 28, 2013

Why do you want to work at a Magnet hospital? In my area Magnet hospitals have a well deserved reputation as not being good places to work

My experience as well.

MrChicagoRN, RN · Apr 28, 2013

In ChicagoLand, magnet facilities are generally desirable places to work.

If I read the OP question correctly, as long as you have a bachelors-or-better in nursing science, everything is fine. You don't specifically need a BSN.

Misskala · Apr 29, 2013

I think they do want BSN. I have a BA and ADN, they still only want "science of nursing." So BSN or MSN. I know one of the nurse educators at the last hospital I worked at, she was working towards a Masters in Education to be a clinic educator, so that is another variation. But I'm pretty sure the managers I interviewed with didn't care about my bachelors. :-)