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Jun 09, 2009 01:46 PM

Nursing Education and the Recession - Tough Economic Times

by VickyRN Staff
Updated Jun 17, 2009 at 01:32 PM by VickyRN

The recession has definitely left its mark on universities and community colleges. Funding is being slashed, educators' salaries are frozen, faculty workloads are increasing, supplies are in short demand, and fear and uncertainty abound.

The State Constitution of North Carolina requires a balanced budget each year (unlike our federal government). There is an estimated $3 billion shortfall this fiscal year. State employees are currently being required to “give back” to the state 0.5% of their salaries, to help make up for this fiduciary crisis. This is in exchange for a “furlough” of 10 hours, which most educators will never see.

The latest projected cuts to education in North Carolina (for the year 2010-2011) are most disconcerting – a projected decrease in funding for 2010-11 by $59.2 million. This translates to:
16.1% cut from the state university system
14.2% cut from the state community college system
14.2% cut from the state public school system
Some sources of financial aid to students have dried up, but others remain available (such as Stafford Loans).

In my college of nursing, we are restricted on photocopying, travel, and use of supplies. We are rationing paper and ink cartridges. Workloads have increased. Nursing classes have been doubled in size. Students are packed in classrooms like sardines. People are very worried that actual job cuts (to faculty and staff) are next.

I consider myself most fortunate to still have a job that I love in the midst of this terrible recession.

Our graduates are having difficulty finding employment. Only 40% of the latest group of graduates (May) have found nursing jobs. Many have placed applications at multiple facilities, including longterm care, with little success.

How is your school of nursing faring in these tough financial times?


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from oramar
Old Jun 12, 2009, 06:40 PM

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I wonder at which school or university she works. What good is it "packing students in like sardines" when the ones that just graduated don't have jobs?
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Old Jun 12, 2009, 07:57 PM

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The point was not increased enrollment, Oramar - enrollment is the same. To save money, classes are doubled up, instead of being broken up into two sections. These huge classes make a difficult learning environment.
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Old Jun 12, 2009, 08:31 PM
Updated Jun 12, 2009 at 10:57 PM by oramar

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The point was not increased enrollment, Oramar - enrollment is the same. To save money, classes are doubled up, instead of being broken up into two sections. These huge classes make a difficult learning environment.
Oh OK, I missed that. Sorry, took it the wrong way. Thought they had doubled their enrollment because nursing is supposed to be a "recession proof career".
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Old Jun 12, 2009, 09:52 PM

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I'm glad I quit teaching. The salary was horrible, considering the hours that I worked, and I cannot imagine the stress of school cutbacks like the OP has stated.

Pray tell, how are the schools of nursing going to pay faculty members more (as per the Nursing Education act in Congress now) if they can't afford basic supplies such as photocopies?
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 05:15 AM
Updated Jun 14, 2009 at 01:32 PM by VickyRN

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I'm glad I quit teaching. The salary was horrible, considering the hours that I worked, and I cannot imagine the stress of school cutbacks like the OP has stated.

Pray tell, how are the schools of nursing going to pay faculty members more (as per the Nursing Education act in Congress now) if they can't afford basic supplies such as photocopies?
I actually love my job. I just think it's very sad that our state expects its employees to shoulder the burden for the budget crisis. I cannot describe the emotions felt by being made to "give back" part of one's salary. (BTW, the state judges - who make tons more than the average state employee - somehow "opted out" of this requirement.) It's not just the universities and community colleges. The NC public schools - which already rank in the low 40's among the states - are now laying off teachers and increasing classroom sizes. The public schools are critically short on supplies.

All of these cutbacks to education (whether in the public schools, community colleges, or universities) compromise our future - our children. Our young people will have less opportunity to acquire marketable job skills and many will end up being unemployed, underemployed, or on public assistance. Thus, in the end, the state will pay out much more $$$$ and collect less money in taxes from productive, working adults by shortchanging education. Penny wise and pound foolish.
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 01:33 PM

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I think that it is ridiculous that state employees are made to give back part of their salary. As a nursing student I know how hard nursing professors work, how little appreciation they get for their work, how little they get paid for their work, and how valuable and crucial their work is. State's should be looking at frivolous spending which in the past 5-10 years of excess their has been plenty of in each state and if they have to, they should look at increasing taxes as a whole, not just taking away from state-employed employees. The nursing schools are already overburdened with too little facilities, too little supplies, and too little pay for it's much needed endeavors.

What also upsets me is the number of well-qualified eager students who would give anything to get into nursing school who aren't able to because there are way too many applicants then there are spots because there isn't the money to hire new faculty, create new classroom space, and find clinical spots. How do the states ever think they are going to take care of the nursing shortage, which after this recession is over and the baby-boomers really start retiring will take place. I know right now there are no jobs but in the future there will be a huge need for more nurses than can be supplied and yet thousands of top students are being turned away.

I also know that right now putting spending into nursing programs is an inprobability with the financial crisis in every state budget but why can't bureacracies ever have some foresight and make budgets that allow for a safety net in such economies and allow for the necesary programs such as firefighter training, nurse training, teacher training to be able to grow and prosper as needed? I know that money needs to be cut from everywhere right now but I feel like they're taking money away from nursing programs that are never given what they need in the first place and yet everyone expects to walk into an ER and for there to be highly trained nurses at the ready. How do they think those high trained nurses get there, osmosis?
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Old Jun 13, 2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters84 View Post
I think that it is ridiculous that state employees are made to give back part of their salary. As a nursing student I know how hard nursing professors work, how little appreciation they get for their work, how little they get paid for their work, and how valuable and crucial their work is. State's should be looking at frivolous spending which in the past 5-10 years of excess their has been plenty of in each state and if they have to, they should look at increasing taxes as a whole, not just taking away from state-employed employees. The nursing schools are already overburdened with too little facilities, too little supplies, and too little pay for it's much needed endeavors.

What also upsets me is the number of well-qualified eager students who would give anything to get into nursing school who aren't able to because there are way too many applicants then there are spots because there isn't the money to hire new faculty, create new classroom space, and find clinical spots. How do the states ever think they are going to take care of the nursing shortage, which after this recession is over and the baby-boomers really start retiring will take place. I know right now there are no jobs but in the future there will be a huge need for more nurses than can be supplied and yet thousands of top students are being turned away.

I also know that right now putting spending into nursing programs is an inprobability with the financial crisis in every state budget but why can't bureacracies ever have some foresight and make budgets that allow for a safety net in such economies and allow for the necesary programs such as firefighter training, nurse training, teacher training to be able to grow and prosper as needed? I know that money needs to be cut from everywhere right now but I feel like they're taking money away from nursing programs that are never given what they need in the first place and yet everyone expects to walk into an ER and for there to be highly trained nurses at the ready. How do they think those high trained nurses get there, osmosis?
Thank you for your insightful reply and kind words of support, jpeters84.

The latest word on our state financial crisis is that the NC General Assembly is considering raising state income taxes for higher income brackets, increasing sales tax on liquor, mandating tuition increases and surcharges, and eliminating certain tuition grants and special scholarships. If enacted, these proposals would lessen the direct funding cuts to state educational institutions, including nursing schools. All state employee salaries, of course, are to remain frozen, with the possibility of further "voluntary furloughs" being enacted down the road.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters84 View Post
What also upsets me is the number of well-qualified eager students who would give anything to get into nursing school who aren't able to because there are way too many applicants then there are spots because there isn't the money to hire new faculty, create new classroom space, and find clinical spots. How do the states ever think they are going to take care of the nursing shortage, which after this recession is over and the baby-boomers really start retiring will take place. I know right now there are no jobs but in the future there will be a huge need for more nurses than can be supplied and yet thousands of top students are being turned away.

I also know that right now putting spending into nursing programs is an inprobability with the financial crisis in every state budget but why can't bureacracies ever have some foresight and make budgets that allow for a safety net in such economies and allow for the necesary programs such as firefighter training, nurse training, teacher training to be able to grow and prosper as needed? I know that money needs to be cut from everywhere right now but I feel like they're taking money away from nursing programs that are never given what they need in the first place and yet everyone expects to walk into an ER and for there to be highly trained nurses at the ready. How do they think those high trained nurses get there, osmosis?
Excellent points. As a Baby Boomer, I am nervous about what health care might be like when I'm elderly. I also appreciate VickyRN's description of the state budgets as penny wise and pound foolish.
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Old Jun 14, 2009, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters84 View Post
I think that it is ridiculous that state employees are made to give back part of their salary. As a nursing student I know how hard nursing professors work, how little appreciation they get for their work, how little they get paid for their work, and how valuable and crucial their work is. State's should be looking at frivolous spending which in the past 5-10 years of excess their has been plenty of in each state and if they have to, they should look at increasing taxes as a whole, not just taking away from state-employed employees. The nursing schools are already overburdened with too little facilities, too little supplies, and too little pay for it's much needed endeavors.

What also upsets me is the number of well-qualified eager students who would give anything to get into nursing school who aren't able to because there are way too many applicants then there are spots because there isn't the money to hire new faculty, create new classroom space, and find clinical spots. How do the states ever think they are going to take care of the nursing shortage, which after this recession is over and the baby-boomers really start retiring will take place. I know right now there are no jobs but in the future there will be a huge need for more nurses than can be supplied and yet thousands of top students are being turned away.

I also know that right now putting spending into nursing programs is an inprobability with the financial crisis in every state budget but why can't bureacracies ever have some foresight and make budgets that allow for a safety net in such economies and allow for the necesary programs such as firefighter training, nurse training, teacher training to be able to grow and prosper as needed? I know that money needs to be cut from everywhere right now but I feel like they're taking money away from nursing programs that are never given what they need in the first place and yet everyone expects to walk into an ER and for there to be highly trained nurses at the ready. How do they think those high trained nurses get there, osmosis?
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