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Old Jun 27, 2009, 01:54 PM

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There's a lot of misconception about what we LTC nurses do, I think the main myth being that we 'lose our skills'. I don't know, it seems to me that when you're working with IVs, wound vacs, central venous catheters, dialysis fistulas, tracheostomies, feeding tubes of all kinds, ostomies, and nephrostomy tubes---to mention just a few---staying current on 'skills' is a no-brainer.

Just the other night, I had one of my dialysis pts come back home after his shunt malfunctioned and he had to get it replaced, this time in the internal jugular vein. He started bleeding out shortly after being settled into bed; I applied pressure, alerted staff to call 9-1-1, and was still standing there applying pressure when the EMTs got there ten minutes later. They actually complimented me on stopping the bleeding! Like they expected me to not know a simple first-aid maneuver, just because I'm a nursing-home nurse.
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from Mary R. RN
Old Jul 08, 2009, 08:00 PM

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Wow, VivaLasViejas , that was probably the most valuable writing I have yet read regarding nursing.

Over 25 years ago I worked in a Skilled Nursing Facility in Key West Florida. From the residents I learned the complete history of an island way of life that included Harry Truman, sponge fishing, the military, starvation, Henry
Flagler and even Auschwitz and the Titanic. I remember this time of my life as some of my most rewarding nursing. Thanks for bringing back that memory. I admire you so much becasue of your altruism.
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Old Jul 08, 2009, 09:25 PM

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Your post has rendered me speechless (for once), so........Thank you!!
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No. 13
from Blondie03
Old Jul 09, 2009, 09:25 AM

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I also work in LTC as a CNA while I attend nursing school. All I have to say is there is no better feeling in the world then to walk into work and see your residents faces light up knowing your the best part of their day!!! What an amazing thing to be apart of!
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No. 14
from TrishJK
Old Jul 16, 2009, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by VivaLasViejas View Post
The way I look at it, SOMEBODY has got to care about these people---the government sees them as numbers, the medical establishment largely ignores and under-treats them, and the corporations that own and operate nursing facilities view them only in terms of dollars and cents. ...

Someone far wiser than I already said this, and I believe it to be true: you have to BE the change you want to see in the world. This is my way of being that change. What is yours?
It's the same in Australia. In the place I work they have the funds per shift for 1RN (does the documentation and most wound dressings) + 1EEN (hands out the pills) (endorsed enrolled nurse - a 2yr technical college rather than university course) and, if they're lucky on a shift, all the personal care attendants (who do everything else) turn up for their low-paid jobs (less than untrained vet assistants get because in western society we care more for our pets than our parents) at the rate of 1 per 5 residents morning and 1 per ten residents evening shift to look after 60 high-care (i.e. very frail, many comorbidities, mostly incapacitated elders). And this place is a non-profit, run by one of the largest churches in the country.

In fact, this is one of the major reasons I am studying to become a nurse, thence a post grad dip in mental health nursing to care for those with dementia better - and maybe, if all goes well, a research degree - so I have enough seniority to stand up and shout about this injustice and increase my chances of being heard and changing a ROTTEN system.
PS I love all your posts - you are an American me!)
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from angelajo2
Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:03 AM

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I'm a new BSN gaduate and I have to say that my time spent in LTC as CNA helped me immensley with any skill in the hospital. There were wound vacs and drains that I was more familiar with then some of the experienced RN's on the floor; not to mention the amount of exposure I had to trach's, foleys, and ambulating patients. My instructors, preceptors and classmates always asked how I knew so much and where did I get my confidence (but not too confident), and I would tell everyone I learned it from the nursing home.
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No. 16
from angelajo2
Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by VivaLasViejas View Post
There's a lot of misconception about what we LTC nurses do, I think the main myth being that we 'lose our skills'. I don't know, it seems to me that when you're working with IVs, wound vacs, central venous catheters, dialysis fistulas, tracheostomies, feeding tubes of all kinds, ostomies, and nephrostomy tubes---to mention just a few---staying current on 'skills' is a no-brainer.

Just the other night, I had one of my dialysis pts come back home after his shunt malfunctioned and he had to get it replaced, this time in the internal jugular vein. He started bleeding out shortly after being settled into bed; I applied pressure, alerted staff to call 9-1-1, and was still standing there applying pressure when the EMTs got there ten minutes later. They actually complimented me on stopping the bleeding! Like they expected me to not know a simple first-aid maneuver, just because I'm a nursing-home nurse.

I'm a new BSN gaduate and I have to say that my time spent in LTC as CNA helped me immensley with any skill in the hospital. There were wound vacs and drains that I was more familiar with then some of the experienced RN's on the floor; not to mention the amount of exposure I had to trach's, foleys, and ambulating patients. My instructors, preceptors and classmates always asked how I knew so much and where did I get my confidence (but not too confident), and I would tell everyone I learned it from the nursing home.
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Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:27 AM

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I started my job in a local nursing home as an aide when I was 19. People would give me funny looks and make comments when they found out where I worked. I remember just starting out one lady told me that's too bad you work there, that really is going to age you. I'm 24 now and yes that 19 year old is gone baby gone. I've grown SO much working there. I stand up for myself, for my residents, and I can take a whole lot more that I could back them. Partly from working with the residents and partly with dealing with some nasty staff. I'm starting nursing school in September and I'm REALLY excited! I want to work at the same place as a nurse and I really enjoy my job there. I have a strong bond with the residents and even some of their families. Yes I do cry when they die. I've been told it's bad. But I disagree. I think it ups the level of care that I give them. There are days that place depresses me, but mostly I try to bring happiness in. My mom once said that with me there it seems happier. I try to laugh and tell jokes, and I'm there for residents when mentally and physically they are having a rough time. I really enjoy my job.
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No. 18
from tiroka03
Old Jul 24, 2009, 09:43 AM

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I agree, that you are required to be responsible for so much in a nursing home setting. I didn't realize the difference until I worked in a hospital. I am an LPN, and had experience in things these RN's had no idea of how to do. How sad. When I moved, I gratefully returned to nursing home work, where I again had the responsibility and need to keep my skills sharp. The toteum pole is upside down.
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No. 19
from rwbglock23
Old Jul 30, 2009, 04:11 PM

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As an aspiring RN, I thank you for sharing the information the way you do Viva. I am one of the fortunate students who has been around health-care in some form since I was about 12 and my Mother became an LPN.

Like you, my Mother devoted her career to LTC, working with Alzheimer patients. I would often asked her the same or similar questions...how do you do it? She would always answer the same way as you have in many of the answers you have given. I am so happy to have a Mother that has taught me to be more like the two of you in appreciating what is left in the tenderness of a patient that is nearing the end of their time.

Thank you so much for what you do, you are an angel trapped in a nurses body...
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