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No. 90
from VickyRN
Old Sep 25, 2009, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MaritesaRN View Post
Hi Vicky ! I never understood the PA program. I heard this is a 4 year program........but is this program clinically involved during the training? I know that they sort of equate Physicians assistant (PA) to nurse practitioner (NP) in some places , but nurse practitioner are way much educated ( have to have Masters now , before you can go NP training for 9 months?) What is the difference of the curriculum between these two? What are the limitations in practice of the NP? Not to put down the PA , I jsut need to understand as to why they equate their functions to a nurse practitioner?
This might be helpful to your inquiry, MaritesaRN:

What is the difference between a PA, NP, and RN?

Also
http://medicaleconomics.modernmedici....jsp?id=121168
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No. 91
from VickyRN
Old Sep 25, 2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MaritesaRN View Post

Hi Vicky , I was trying to save those links that you gave us before....but I can not locate it anymore.
Maybe you can nudge me to a direction....I am 63, UR , CM and medical review for Medicare and private insurance, was also a staff ,and at times charge nurse for a lock up psych unit. I would like to be taking some certification towards gerontology. My change of direction is toward geriatrics , preferably in a LTC with rehab ( this way I can re learn and apply some clinical nursing skills again). I was told to get AANAC, maybe some MDS certification ? Long time ago I started taking required undergraduates subjects to get into Domiguez Hills Masters program. I stopped because I was not clear w/ my purpose for the Masters......I really did not have a solid reason why I was taking it, except to compete w/ other VA nurses that carried all sorts of Masters and even PHD's---- I do not want to be an administrator , ( unless I own the place ) . I would like skilss that I could take to another state, since I plan to move my family out of california to Washington State or Oregon ( things are greener and hopefully not as crowded and expensive as California is getting to be.
By the way I am a healthy 63, so my age should not be the reason of not finding work. I like to go to Gerontology , geriatrics to be specific. I do like old people, but I also want to be good professionally at what I do ...so can I go to a geriatrics specialist study? I had RN training in an excellent community college , but I finished Bachelor of Journalism in another country, but to study here, I have to have an international eval company looked at my transcripts. You know the rule for an out of the country degrees are to minus 30 units, then they go through your courses for the US equivalents. After - 30 units, they granted me with an equivalent of Bacheor of Science, so I am good. I stopped taking courses because the place that I worked for before (Veterans Administration , Los Angeles) did not give me any education reimbursement ( as part of the benefits) . It seems like everytime I inquire for the $2,000.00/ year education reimbursement --- they are already "out of funds". Anyhow , not to get distracted , I stopped because Phoenix U. It was costing me a lot of money from student loan --------------I still have a balance of $4,600.00 plus student loan approximately , from the 3 subjects I took via this school ! Are there any other avenues to get educated without going broke for the rest of your life? I know that you can work for a government office for 2 years , and they will forgive your loan, but then getting one, ( I worked in a federal office) , and this was not accounted for ??????? something was not right , but now I am thinking if those loans should be forgiven considering I worked in the VA ???
I am willing to hear your wisdome and advice on this......no you can make it public so others may get something from it too.
MaritesaRN, have you talked with a guidance counselor at your local university or community college? This would be the best way to get career advice tailored specifically to your unique life circumstances. The appointment is free and the counselor would know what scholarships, grants, loans, etc., are available in your area and perhaps in other areas of the country. Best wishes to you
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No. 92
from >30yrsRN
Old Sep 26, 2009, 10:30 AM

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Well, It sounds like you know want a inexpensive and Quickest way to get your MSN and have a Certification in Geriatrics. This would be a State University program. Check for online RN to MSN. Also any College you go to if you want a Degree you are going to be paying for the least 30 to 72 credits of their courses and that is at any level AS,BSN,MSN or PHD. It Big Business !
Did you ever hear of WGU? It Online they except Life experiances and I bet alot of those courses you took.
If you work at the VA you have to be accept in a College Before June 2009 or 2010 etc,.. then apply for the Tuition Reimburse Forms by the June Date, Then when you see the emails about it in the Fall and Winter and Spring read it aga
in, you will see that
It really is for the Nurses except in that June Form so that the money is available as the Progress though thier Degree Programs, Also Check to see if the money was divide up even for the BSN and MSN Degrees Nurses Reimbursements if they truely Ran out of the Funds, They were not Following a Magnet Ideal way of sharing the wisdom and wealth of the $ resources, Thats what gives Magnet a bad name when this Happens and all the money goes to the Top Degrees like MSN and PHD in Nursing and not the RN to BSN or RN to MSN Programs. I would also look at ANA for Scholarship Money in your local community. Also what List were you referring about to Vicki? I might still have them for you.
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No. 93
from MaritesaRN
Old Sep 28, 2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by >30yrsRN View Post
Well, It sounds like you know want a inexpensive and Quickest way to get your MSN and have a Certification in Geriatrics. This would be a State University program. Check for online RN to MSN. Also any College you go to if you want a Degree you are going to be paying for the least 30 to 72 credits of their courses and that is at any level AS,BSN,MSN or PHD. It Big Business !
Did you ever hear of WGU? It Online they except Life experiances and I bet alot of those courses you took.
If you work at the VA you have to be accept in a College Before June 2009 or 2010 etc,.. then apply for the Tuition Reimburse Forms by the June Date, Then when you see the emails about it in the Fall and Winter and Spring read it aga
in, you will see that
It really is for the Nurses except in that June Form so that the money is available as the Progress though thier Degree Programs, Also Check to see if the money was divide up even for the BSN and MSN Degrees Nurses Reimbursements if they truely Ran out of the Funds, They were not Following a Magnet Ideal way of sharing the wisdom and wealth of the $ resources, Thats what gives Magnet a bad name when this Happens and all the money goes to the Top Degrees like MSN and PHD in Nursing and not the RN to BSN or RN to MSN Programs. I would also look at ANA for Scholarship Money in your local community. Also what List were you referring about to Vicki? I might still have them for you.

Hi , thank you so much for the reply. Vicky gave me some links and did go to see it, and it is good to see other options to be able to make a better decision. One more question ...I was in preparation by taking more undergraduates subjects in Domiguez Hills (State Univeristy) .....what happens if I ahve to move to another state before I graduate.........am I going to lose credits if I pick it up in another state university? I do not want to get committed until I know the hurdles , such as transferable credits?
I was looking also in Kaplan , and they have a certified geriatric case manager certification ( approx $4,500.00 including books --- this covers 7 subjects, and it looks good for a focus study --------but I will not be able to use the credits from this to apply to a university credits.
I will look into the ANA and my daughter will show me how to find grant money ( she is in college finishing her last year up to the fall of 2010.). Ladies and gentlemen, it makes this website really , truly a networking and a camaraderie for nurses.
Sure our opinion do not always parallel w/ each other, but then this is the good to be able to see different opinions, as long as we adhere to civility .
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No. 94
from MaritesaRN
Old Sep 28, 2009, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VickyRN View Post
MaritesaRN, have you talked with a guidance counselor at your local university or community college? This would be the best way to get career advice tailored specifically to your unique life circumstances. The appointment is free and the counselor would know what scholarships, grants, loans, etc., are available in your area and perhaps in other areas of the country. Best wishes to you

Vicky, I did have one , when I was took some undergraduates subjects before .....I guess back to track 1 .
Thank you much for the advice and nudging me where I should go !
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No. 95
from >30yrsRN
Old Sep 28, 2009, 10:42 PM

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Is Domiguez Hills online still?
I would think if you are staying in the Same Regional Accreditation of Colleges
They will except all your Credits those other courses
Best Of Luck to you.
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No. 96
from MaritesaRN
Old Sep 29, 2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by >30yrsRN View Post
Is Domiguez Hills online still?
I would think if you are staying in the Same Regional Accreditation of Colleges
They will except all your Credits those other courses
Best Of Luck to you.

When I was in school w/ Dominguez , on line was pretty new. the classes were in my facility where I worked at that time and it made it really easy. I will have to call them again and start the process all over again and see .
thank you so much all for your inputs !
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No. 97
from Bree124
Old Oct 14, 2009, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Moogie View Post
I have a question for the DEMSN students here: do you find that your programs are good at student retention? Do you feel that the faculty is mostly supportive? The reason I ask is because on AN, there are often so many horror stories about students, usually in entry-level programs, who fail out of their programs by half a percentage point, sometimes in their very last semester, or get dropped because of minor transgressions like wearing the "wrong" shoes to clinical or being five minutes late to clinical when policy stated that they had a ten-minute window.
I know this is a little old now, but wanted to chime in - We started with 49, and two quit for personal reasons within the first few months (one for a pregnancy, one because she just realized it wasn't what she wanted to do). So we have a high retention rate. I have always felt that I was treated as a peer, and as an intelligent person. The faculty had high expectations of the students, but not over petty issues like shoes.
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