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No. 30
from BBFRN
Old May 07, 2009, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pagandeva2000 View Post
This makes me wonder about the on line RN courses. They take an exam after each module (I forget what word they use for it). Is Excelsior's exams the same as NCLEX, where the test questions from from a pool, or is it that 'each one can teach one' so to speak and keep passing information to their friends after they take the exams?
Excelsior's exams are taken at Pearson testing centers, and are as closely monitored as the NCLEX. The study guides are huge, and the test bank is humongous. Nobody gets the same test questions, essentially.

It's impossible to cheat in that program.
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No. 31
from island40
Old May 07, 2009, 07:46 PM

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I taught for about 2 years. I had some cheaters in class and was not allowed by the administration to so much as ask them to leave my classroom (daddy had a lot of $$) but overall 90% of my students earned their grades. There is no way those horribly spelled papers with 2nd grade grammar errors were purchased!!
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No. 32
from VickyRN
Old May 08, 2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BBFRN View Post
Excelsior's exams are taken at Pearson testing centers, and are as closely monitored as the NCLEX. The study guides are huge, and the test bank is humongous. Nobody gets the same test questions, essentially.

It's impossible to cheat in that program.
BBFRN is right. For further information about Excelsior's secure test taking procedures, please see these links:

Registering for Excelsior College Exams
Scheduling Your Excelsior College Exams

This booklet describes the extensive psychometric statistical evaluation of test items used on Excelsior examinations: Excelsior College Exams Technical Hand Book
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No. 33
from VickyRN
Old May 09, 2009, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by CaLLaCoDe View Post
I was recently at my chemo therapy class where there is this test at the very end. I was surprised when some nurses (not students, RNS), from the university (OHSU) were boldly going over the answers and then arguing over one, too much!!! And the irony to this cheating business, I and others witnessed this. I was to put it mildly, shocked. I even told the instructors (from OHSU) about it while they were grading the tests and they didn't even flinch. Isn't that strange? Shouldn't a university have higher standards?
Yes, this depends on the context. Was this a teaching type seminar with practice (learning) examinations in which group discussion was allowed? Or was this an official course for credit of some sort? What were the course ground rules? It depends on what the course objectives were and what the syllabus allowed...
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No. 34
from VickyRN
Old May 09, 2009, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by island40 View Post
I taught for about 2 years. I had some cheaters in class and was not allowed by the administration to so much as ask them to leave my classroom (daddy had a lot of $$) but overall 90% of my students earned their grades. There is no way those horribly spelled papers with 2nd grade grammar errors were purchased!!
If you don't have backing from the nursing or college administration, then it's a lost cause. You were wise to leave. Not all nursing programs programs are like that. Most have high standards of integrity and support their faculty in enforcing rules of ethical conduct.
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No. 35
Old May 19, 2009, 05:21 PM

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We have to check our papers with Turnitin.com. Our college pays for it. I think the instructors said to expect about 30% (whatever formula the web site uses to determine words not your own). i was extremely proud since my paper showed only 5% and every part of that was my references, which can be attributed to using APA format for them, so there was no real way to change it.

That cell phone texting thing is rampant, I had to email an instructor concerning it, though I didn't know who did it. For someone with ADD, it is very distracting to hear things like that in the background as well. They watched things much closer after that time.
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No. 36
from VickyRN
Old May 20, 2009, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cursedandblessed View Post
We have to check our papers with Turnitin.com. Our college pays for it. I think the instructors said to expect about 30% (whatever formula the web site uses to determine words not your own). i was extremely proud since my paper showed only 5% and every part of that was my references, which can be attributed to using APA format for them, so there was no real way to change it.

That cell phone texting thing is rampant, I had to email an instructor concerning it, though I didn't know who did it. For someone with ADD, it is very distracting to hear things like that in the background as well. They watched things much closer after that time.
Thank you for sharing your experience with the plagiarism software. I have heard of this software, but never personally used it. In screening for plagiarism in student works, I look for odd phrases that do not fit the usual writing style of the student, the use of uncommon words in American vernacular such as "whilst," or British English spelling such as "colour." I also assign unique writing tasks that would be very difficult to "buy" over the Internet (such as a thesis comparing and contrasting two divergent topics).

Texting in class is one of my pet peeves. I address this behavior in my class syllabus. The consequences (if someone is discovered doing so) include being asked to leave the class. I also require students to turn off their cell phones (not just place on vibrate) at the beginning of class. Still, it's very difficult for an instructor to detect this activity in a very large classroom.
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No. 37
from VickyRN
Old Jun 18, 2009, 03:00 PM

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Disturbing article from eSchoolNews:

New poll reveals students use cell phones, internet to cheat; parents are unaware

A new poll conducted by the nonprofit organization Common Sense Media suggests that students are using cell phones and the internet to cheat on school exams. What's surprising, however, is not just the alarming number of students who say they cheat, but also the number of students who think it's OK to do so.
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No. 38
from CityKat
Old Jun 30, 2009, 02:21 AM

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I remember very well the amount of cheating that took place in my university, through my program. Numerous people went forth to complain about the talking during exams, the getting up and walking over to another student to copy their answers, the people who didn't spread out when told to do so, the ones on their cell phones etc. We even had students STEAL our summer pediatrics exam and go run and make copies DURING the class. Obviously the entire class got in trouble for that. There was even one girl who gave birth during one major med surg exam and the professor told her she didn't have to take the test at all!! She ended up passing the course.

I worked my rear end off in school and I was so upset when there was nothing done to these students; they remained in the program and graduated. A few of them were picked for the SNA.

I recommended numerous times to have proctors during exams, but nothing was ever done. I will never recommend my university to anyone, nor have I become an alumni based on all of this. Nursing school was a big disappointment for me.
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No. 39
Old Jul 03, 2009, 07:36 PM

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Its funny there is so much unethical behavior in the classroom makes me wonder if it bleeds over into the workplace even with HIPPA set up to protect the patient. I know cheating was rampant in business school which helps me identify exactly why our economy is in the trouble
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