Practice intramuscular injection students on each other, Australia - Page 2

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  1. Mar 1, '12 by
    There are many things around, which we can discuss, which for sure can help but also don't have to be around always when needed to help new nurses. It doesn't change anything on the fact, that as student it is best to practice and learn as much as you can because you know you will need it. And of course, if you don't know, are afraid, not confident (like with the embolism thing), all you have to do is ask. But maybe this is the seed of this whole problem because the complaining student didn't ask, agreed and second day change her mind. Also other time before said by her words "I don't want be nurse, I just want the paper".

    Thank you, but I would like to focus back on the topic of this discussion - experience with this method in Australia.
  2. Mar 1, '12 by
    I am a 3rd year nursing student in Western Australia. When we learnt IM injections last year, we practiced them on mannequins padded with fake skin. The only needle-type practice we did on ourselves was testing our blood sugars, and we had to do our own, not someone else's. I guess its a liability thing for the university. I did my first subcut and IM injections on patients during prac rotations.
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  3. Mar 1, '12 by
    Thank you suga_junkie for sharing your experience.
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    Mar 1, '12 by
    I trained in the UK way back in the 80's and we never practiced on each other, we used oranges and then patients and even to this day I remember my first injection on a patient. I have let students/newly qualified nurses practice taking blood on me because I have good veins but that was my choice
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  5. Mar 5, '12 by
    When I was a nursing student we practiced in class on a orange.
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  6. Mar 5, '12 by
    Thank you all. I have found other thread in this forum where is discussion about IM injection practice on each other and also some discussions on other sites. It seems that practice IM injections on each other (even IV injections etc.) is more common for medical students, also there are nurses from Europe and USA who have this experience. Unfortunately no experience from Australia, where, bluntly said, nurse students cure oranges :-).

    And also there is visible trend that schools/universities leave this method because of liability reasons. It seems that make some expenses on buying fake arms, fat pads, mannequins, simulators etc. is safer for them and good enough to prepare students for practice.

    Still will be glad for your experience with learning/teaching intramuscular injection on each other in Australia.
  7. Mar 11, '12 by
    Also we practices on a sponge.
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  8. Mar 13, '12 by
    I trained in the UK early 90's and we learnt on oranges and then first injection was on a patient under supervision. I see no reason to practice invasive stuff on other students.
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    Mar 13, '12 by
    Maybe the poster can do research on the technique of Australian nurses giving IM injections on patients and how efficient or inefficient their education is and compare this to their nurses outcomes in giving IM injections in their previous country. I Would be interested.
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  10. Mar 13, '12 by
    Thank you. Nice idea but it is very hard to do such a thing with some relevant results, here is for example study which shows at least some of the problems:
    Reducing Needle Stick Injuries in Healthcare Occupations: An Integrative Review of the Literature

    As I stated in #15 after my research about this topic:

    Quote from mumlauf
    And also there is visible trend that schools/universities leave this method because of liability reasons. It seems that make some expenses on buying fake arms, fat pads, mannequins, simulators etc. is safer for them and good enough to prepare students for practice.