Disapproved as a Second Courser at the NCNZ

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    Hello, I would like to ask here if anybody has applied to the Nursing Council of New Zealand as a Registered Nurse and was disapproved due to being a second courser? I received my decision letter from the Nursing Council of New Zealand in my email thru my agent. She already told me in advance the other day about some of the letter's content. When I read the disapproval letter their reason was because it was not clear to them why I have a shortened program and finished the nursing degree by only 2 years and 9 months.

    I have also searched on the internet about some Filipino Nurses way back in 2008 that was being disapproved by the council due to being second coursers. Actually prior to 2008 it was reported by an article that they still accepted second coursers without any problem. The reasons for disapproval was because they only took up nursing within 2-3 years. I have the same problem and I also agree with them that it is unfair for us not to be assessed fairly. We also went to school and made our practicum just like any regular student nurses. The only difference is that we have some subjects that are already credited so the shorter number of years it took for us to finish.

    My friend and colleague whose already in NZ the other week advised me to just reply and make the letter of appeal to the council. She had a CAP classmate there with a similar situation as mine. A former nursing classmate of mine also in NZ told me she has nurse friends there who did the same and were reconsidered.

    The New Zealand Nursing Council gave an option for me to appeal within 6 weeks from the date of their letter and provide additional evidence to prove I am fit to practice according to their standards. I also went to a lawyer to help me draw a letter of appeal for reconsideration as well as further evidence for my appeal.

    Is there a possibility I might be reconsidered just like their friends or it depends as it is a case to case basis for second coursers?
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    Maybe NZ is concerned re clinical experience being obtained AFTER graduation and are not concurrent with your theory, and clinical experience is lacking.

    It is not really unfair......just because it happened last week, does not make it common law and to continue fpr eternity, it is really of no consequence that second courses from your nursing group where excepted last year, last month, last week, it is your assessment and they have deemed it lacking in some way.

    Did you provide previous study records and what credit was given to your nursing degree?.
    If you have not, how can they agree that the credit given on your past study is agreeable to shorten your nursing degree.

    Did you do lots of subjects, such as folk dancing and swimming, national service, as part of your previous study, that is not really considered, university standard of subjects in New Zealand? and therefore would not be considered as credit for a nursing degree.

    Any country, can assess an overseas nurse applicant how they wish. If they believe it is not up to the standard of their local nursing degree.

    I would appeal to the NZ board and show evidence why you think you should receive a positive outcome.

    Good luck.
    Last edit by ceridwyn on Oct 31, '12
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  5. Quote from ceridwyn
    Maybe NZ is concerned re clinical experience being obtained AFTER graduation and are not concurrent with your theory, and clinical experience is lacking.

    It is not really unfair......just because it happened last week, does not make it common law and to continue fpr eternity, it is really of no consequence that second courses from your nursing group where excepted last year, last month, last week, it is your assessment and they have deemed it lacking in some way.

    Did you provide previous study records and what credit was given to your nursing degree?.
    If you have not, how can they agree that the credit given on your past study is agreeable to shorten your nursing degree.

    Did you do lots of subjects, such as folk dancing and swimming, national service, as part of your previous study, that is not really considered, university standard of subjects in New Zealand? and therefore would not be considered as credit for a nursing degree.

    Any country, can assess an overseas nurse applicant how they wish. If they believe it is not up to the standard of their local nursing degree.

    I would appeal to the NZ board and show evidence why you think you should receive a positive outcome.

    Good luck.


    @ceridwyn: Thanks for the comment. Yes I did provide everything the council asked for. All of it up to the last detail. I also provided them my CV complete with my Certificate of Employment from a 150-bed capacity tertiary gov't hospital here in the Philippines as well as certified copies of my trainings and seminars attended. They acknowledged it but they also stated that it does not override the fundamental concern with my application.

    My last chance is to prove and show additional evidence that I am fit for their standards. God willing...
  6. hi. im just new here. i also received the same letter from the ncnz. we're on the same boat. where did you finished your BSN degree? what are thing you submitted? are you still on appeal?
  7. The nursing council care about that nurses that come into New Zealand have the same level of qualifications of those who have been taught in New Zealand. Some countries do not have the same levels and teaching that New Zealand does. Sorry
  8. Hi there I was just starting my application and was browsing the web when I came up with this thread. I am also a second courser and also is dreaming to be a NZ nurse. I am also from the Philippines as well... How did your application go? Did the council approved your second application? Hope all goes well..
  9. Hi there imang... How did your appeal go? Can you plead pm me.. I am also a second courser... I think we all have the same concerns...