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Jan 08, 2009, 09:45 AM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant
(((achot chavi))) Thank you! I deeply apologize if I insinuated that the majority of Ultra Orthodox or Hasidic followers aren't well educated- I believe that the young man looking on the floor for bacteria was probably in the minority. I certainly know many faithful spend years, decades even in studies, and it's certainly more then just the Torah. Thank you for adding an important distinction.
I'm not a big fan of the Streisand film "Yentl", but it does put an emphasis on studies, debate, and the thoughtful consideration of G-d's words.
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Jan 08, 2009, 10:32 AM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant
There is a misunderstanding by many people what "work" means when Shabbos rules are in question. "Work" that is not allowed to do on Shabbos according to the Torah is not necessarily work as we know it.
The work that is not allowed on Shabbos is really what has to be done to prepare food, starting from preparing the ground to grow crops. It is divided into 39 types of work. This is what is really prohibited to perform on Shabbos.
One example of this is the rule against turning on a fire. Electricity can be compared to turning on a fire, consequently, electricity is prohibited.
Another example: Preparing the ground to grow crops involves digging in the ground. Dragging a heavy object on a soft ground will cause digging. Consenquently this is prohibited too.
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Jan 08, 2009, 10:45 AM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant Originally Posted by oncnursemsn (((achot chavi))) Thank you! I deeply apologize if I insinuated that the majority of Ultra Orthodox or Hasidic followers aren't well educated- I believe that the young man looking on the floor for bacteria was probably in the minority. I certainly know many faithful spend years, decades even in studies, and it's certainly more then just the Torah. Thank you for adding an important distinction. I hope I didn't come across criticizing, I really just meant to clarify.
Thank you for a well written essay sharing your out of the ordinary experience and enabling up all to gain from your insights. Its funny but I see every day the outpouring of friends, family, and caring strangers who come to visit and help, bring food, and good cheer to our patients that I took it for granted.
There was even a sect who didn't want to see women and we nurses were asked to stay at the desk for the 2 minutes it took for them to walk from the elevator down the hall to the patients room. We respected the request as long as no one else needed us (no call bells etc)
In the local hopital, women prepare sandwiches and snacks, drinks and fruit for the sick and their families without knowing them. A couple comes every saturday (Shabbat) to make a public meal for all the sick patients and their families "stuck" in the hospital so that they have a warm and family like experience suring the Shabbat. They do this 52 weeks a year- and prepare food for at least 100 people. They package the meal if the patient cant come to the dining hall. When a neighbor is sick, we all pray for his recovery- altogether at the synagogue. So I am used to the outpouring of caring and food. Its nice to see it from your perspective!!!
BTW I know many other religous groups that also do similar caring acts to help those in need. It always warms the heart. As I know that people have full lives and despite it make room to help others.
Thank you for caring, I;m sure it meant the world to Yoshi and helped him when he felt vulnerable and helpless (as well as sick, weak, scared, tired, in pain etc.) This is what we do.
As a Jew I was asked by my nursing instructors if I would be able to provide nursing care to Adolf Hitler if he needed, we were prepared from the start to help anyone. Regardless of background, lifestyle, past misdeeds, outward appearance etc. You were handed a challenge and really rose to it.
BTW to clarify someones post about tearing toilet paper- while it is best to prepare torn paper before the Shabbat, if one doesn't have, they may tear the toilet paper using a different manner than usually done- in order to preserve their personal dignity and hygiene. One need not go dirty if they lack pre torn paper.
You may be just one person in this world but sometimes you are the world to one person!!!!!
I'm not a big fan of the Streisand film "Yentl", Neither was I but boy can she belt out a song!!!!!
but it does put an emphasis on studies, debate, and the thoughtful consideration of G-d's words. and consideration of other people | | No. 15 |
Jan 08, 2009, 11:13 AM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant
I don't want to "pollute" this thread, but our hospital is in Chinatown, and many of the elderly Chinese pts don't eat hospital food. Their 2nd and 3rd generation children bring in all their food. Even had one pt whose adult son would bring in his own microwave from home, electric tea pot and all chopsticks and dishes. We have several Muslim pts who come in for chemo and their families do the same. Funny how important food is when it comes to being in the hospital!
Second "off the thread" issue. Achot Chavi- I'm surprised your instructor asked you about caring for Hitler- seems a bit off, though as a nursing instructor I know what they were "fishing" for. It's like our docs and medics in Iraq- as medical professionals, we provide the best possible care that we can regardless of politics, religion, ethnicity, etc. I have to say that using Hitler was a poor choice I think IMHO. First- thank G-d he's dead, and second, he was an extreme example horrendous cruelty to peoples who have been persecuted for centuries. (Jews, homosexuals, mentally ill, etc etc.)
Last (I promise!) off thread question- my Hewbrew is virtually non existant- what does "Achot Chavi" mean? (thanks...)
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Jan 08, 2009, 11:44 PM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant Originally Posted by oncnursemsn I don't want to "pollute" this thread, but our hospital is in Chinatown, and many of the elderly Chinese pts don't eat hospital food. Their 2nd and 3rd generation children bring in all their food. Even had one pt whose adult son would bring in his own microwave from home, electric tea pot and all chopsticks and dishes. We have several Muslim pts who come in for chemo and their families do the same. Funny how important food is when it comes to being in the hospital! FOOD is very important to people- see the post "Descrimination- Hot meal or soup and sandwich" Also for a loved one, food is the way of showing you care. When I have an obese patient I instruct their family to bring nonfood gifts- perfume, lotions, balloons, books and magazines etc.
Second "off the thread" issue. Achot Chavi- I'm surprised your instructor asked you about caring for Hitler- seems a bit off, though as a nursing instructor I know what they were "fishing" for. It's like our docs and medics in Iraq- as medical professionals, we provide the best possible care that we can regardless of politics, religion, ethnicity, etc. I have to say that using Hitler was a poor choice I think IMHO. First- thank G-d he's dead, and second, he was an extreme example horrendous cruelty to peoples who have been persecuted for centuries. (Jews, homosexuals, mentally ill, etc etc.) exactly, but no one is accusing our nursing instructors of tact and sensitivity (ha ha) But I understood her point, and it has helped me to care for people that personally I may not care for.
Last (I promise!) off thread question- my Hewbrew is virtually non existant- what does "Achot Chavi" mean? (thanks...)
ACHOT is hebrew for (would you believe) nurse. Chavi is a shortened version of a biblical name I like.
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Jan 09, 2009, 08:21 AM
Re: Hasidic Jew Admitted for Bone Marrow Transplant
There are many things I don't understand about Orthodox Judaism, such as why it's ok to have a Shabbos Goy do work that is forbidden for the Jews themselves to do when Scripture says that foreigners (non-Jews) and animals living among the Orthodox are also not to work on Sabbath but I guess there must be other Scriptures that cover this. Anyway, this was a most moving and interesting example of lovingkindness and great Nursing.
Blessings upon the OP.
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