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| No. 20 |
Jul 17, 2009, 09:11 AM
re: Does God Make Mistakes?
I think that this is a hard subject. Technology has allowed us to now play God and keep lives extended. But I also feel that if it your time to go, it doesn't matter what interventions are placed, you will go. I just grapple with who determines quality of life....
| | No. 23 |
Jul 18, 2009, 05:00 AM
re: Does God Make Mistakes?
I don't think god makes mistakes, but i do think humans do, they may mean well, but a mistake is still a mistake. In this case i think the humans involved messed with god's plan by intervening so much, but of course once that slippery slope is begun one can't stop it. I could never inflict this kind of torture on my child, i would have to let the poor baby go home to his maker where he/she belongs. keeping a child here for the occational smile is about the family, not about the child. Seems pretty darn selfish of the family, to me - i could never keep a child shackled to this earth in pain 90% of the time, for my selfish emotional needs. I am reminded of a poem we have here at work:
The Tiny Rosebud
The Master Gardener
From heaven above
Planted a seed
In the garden of love.
And from it there grew
A rosebud small
That never had time
To open at all
For God in His perfect
And all-wise way
Chose this rose
For His heavenly Bouquet.
And great was the joy
Of this tiny rose
To be the one our Father
chose to leave Eath's garden
For one on high
Where roses bloom always
And never die
| | No. 24 |
Jul 20, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Jul 20, 2009 at 10:17 AM by gonzo1224
re: Does God Make Mistakes?
Has anyone here ever read "Many Lives, Many Masters" by Brian Weiss, M.D.? It's powerful! I recommend it to any person who ever questions why God could be so cruel. On the contrary! I gave this book to a crabby old man attorney whose wife just died. He was mean -- made me cry in public more than once (and I'm not a crier!!) He was despondent. His work was suffering. I figured I had nothing to lose by giving him this small gift. I decided If he hurled it back at my head, I would just duck, pick it up and give it to a more deserving soul. Months later he came into my office looking grateful and a little ashamed and thanked me. He read the book in one sitting he said. Then the guy started to cry! Wow!
It's an easy read and will make you sit and ponder your existence. You will look at the world differently, I promise!
| | No. 26 |
Jul 21, 2009, 12:32 PM
re: Does God Make Mistakes? Originally Posted by Agrippa This was well written and touching.
As someone mentioned before, this does presume the existence of God. To me, it seems as if the issues you faced in this experience is one that has been questioned from the beginning of christian thought.
How can a just, all loving, all powerful God allow such suffering? How can he let bad things happen to good people & vice versa? This is a question that I struggle with almost daily.
As someone who was raised in the church and now am agnostic, the answers to this question that many have offered I have found to be intellectually lazy at best and self soothing/delusional at worst. There are thousands of babies that die every day. Every 5 seconds an innocent child dies an excruciating death from the lack of clean water in Africa. This is God's will? Some tell me that yes, their suffering gives us an opportunity to be giving and compassionate. This sickens me - the idea that an innocent child/person is made to suffer so that people may have the opportunity to be compassionate. It gives me no comfort at all.
Then inevitably, the answer evolves into the unchallengeable idea that we as humans cannot comprehend the wisdom/logic of God. It would be as if a chimp were trying to comprehend quantum physics, an impossibility. Well then, just as we would not punish the chimp for being unable to do what he is incapable of doing, should God not also have mercy on those who do not believe in him due to our minds not being able to comprehend his existence?
Furthermore, I imagine that there are thousands that die (and have died in the past) that have never even picked up a book let alone heard about Jesus Christ. Thus, since they don't believe that Christ died for their sins, they are destined to burn in hell forever and ever? Oh, but God loves you.
I'm not trying to degrade your story, but I can't stand idly by statements such as "God never makes mistakes." I would really like to believe that, trust me. If you can enlighten me to the truth of this without wishful thinking or emotional investment, I would be forever grateful. Until then, I cannot agree. It seems to me that bad things things happen to good people for no reason at all. The saving grace is that we have a choice in how to react to this.
Oh man, I couldn't have said it better myself. This is right up my alley.
I could post a thousand situations that can't be explained by, "we polluted our own waters," or 'we did that to ourselves'.
There is just too much cruelty in this world to believe that there is a God up there. A good God anyway...
I just don't buy it.
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