Praying in the work place - page 11
Hi everybody, I'm three months into my new job as a hospice RNCM and have been learning a lot. I generally love, love, love my job. My question today is about praying in the workplace. I know... Read More
0May 2, '13 by PMFB-RNQuote from tnbutterfly*** Will do. However I have to wonder why certain discussion are allowed to swerve very far from the OP without admin comment and some are kept on the strait and narrow. Not really looking for or expecting an answer.ADMIN REQUEST
This discussion has strayed far from the original topic of this thread - "Praying in the Workplace."
I suggest that you create a new thread in the Ethics/Philosophy/Religion forum for your discussion regarding whether or not the world is a better place today.
Please keep all further discussion in this thread on the topic of Praying in the Workplace.
2May 2, '13 by MunoRNBeing raised in Friends Church (Quaker) I realize my views on worship particularly in the context of groups is not the same as other Christians. One significant way in which we differ is in how religion should be incorporated into other societal structures, such as government and the workplace. Friends believe that any mixing of any sort of power structure and Christianity is antithetical to Christian beliefs and only the creates the opportunity for evil purposes.Worship and a person's relationship with God is personal and should always be direct, without 'middlemen' who attempt to speak for you to God, or who attempt to speak for God to you. Even in Church prayer is silent since being led in prayer allows someone to speak to God for you and potentially manipulate your relationship with God and vice versa.
This at least partially stems from the roots of Quakerism when the Church of England established that God spoke through the King and that the King was closer to God than the common man, which Quakers believe the bible describes as being a satanist structure. Like the Puritans, Quakers also believed this applied to the Pope and Catholicism and that the Bible vividly describes the Pope as being the antichrist. While it's a much smaller scale, when institutionalized prayer or worship is used in the workplace or government, it follows the same basic formula.
As to 'what kind of country are we', we are a country initially formed and founded on a fierce belief that government should be religion neutral. The Puritans came here fleeing a government sponsored religion/Religion sponsored government and that sentiment remained strong through our founding. Our founding father were in large part Christian, although to be more accurate they were Freemasons, a Christian based group, although you'll find many (not me) who claim they are more devil worshippers than Christians. So to many, we're a country based on devil worship, which I'd argue isn't the case.Last edit by MunoRN on May 2, '13
0May 2, '13 by FSUNurse2bQuote from MunoRNI do agree with this. The Word is specific on this:.Worship and a person's relationship with God is personal and should always be direct, without 'middlemen' who attempt to speak for you to God, or who attempt to speak for God to you. Even in Church prayer is silent since being led in prayer allows someone to speak to God for you and potentially manipulate your relationship with God and vice versa.
1 Timothy 2:5-7
5 For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, 7 for which I was appointed a preacher and an apostle—I am speaking the truth in Christ[a] and not lying—a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and truth.
0May 2, '13 by itsnoworneverQuote from FSUNurse2bI don't think "he"meant squat since no one can prove "he" did anything or existed
Yes, to some, "peace and safety" means the world is becoming a better place. But, what do you think the apostle Paul meant by these words in his letter to the Thessalonians, some 2,000 years ago? "History" says one thing. The Word of God, says another...
1 Thessalonians 5:1-15
5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.
9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.
11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
12 And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labour among you, and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you;
13 And to esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake. And be at peace among yourselves.
14 Now we exhort you, brethren, warn them that are unruly, comfort the feebleminded, support the weak, be patient toward all men.
15 See that none render evil for evil unto any man; but ever follow that which is good, both among yourselves, and to all men.
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0May 3, '13 by Esme12, ASN, BSN, RN Senior ModeratorI think this thread about opening meetings with a prayer has run it's course...thread closed for review