was i unprofessional? (quick story) - page 5
I several years experience as charge nurse and I think I always handle people and situations quite well. However, at my current place of my employment, the first person who shows up for the shift... Read More
0Oct 15, '11 by rn/writerStaff request: Please, focus on the OP's original question about whether or not she was unprofessional. Posts that continue to address other members' grammar and spelling or that complain about members who are not nurses are subject to removal.
Thank you.Last edit by rn/writer on Oct 15, '11
0Oct 15, '11 by cherrybreezeQuote from roser13Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that the OP expected/hoped for answers from people that weren't nurses. ALL I said was that the OP was not a question about nurse/patient ratios. Nothing more, nothing less.Exactly. And when OP posted her question about the professionalism of demanding a change in her assignment, no doubt she was hoping for opinions from carpenters, attorneys, engineers and rocket scientists. Cause they all would no doubt understand shift work, charge nurses, rapid admissions, patient acuity and hospital politics. Thereby leading to their ability to understand, evaluate and pass judgment on professional nursing behavior. Just as they were taught in law/engineering/carpentry school.
As for me, I will stick to Allnurses.com, kind of pining for the day when only nurses and nursing students were interested in posting here.
4Oct 15, '11 by rn/writerWith a rotating charge position that only involves filling staffing holes and a few other minor tasks, you were absolutely right to do what you did. You stuck up for your patients and the potential new admits and for yourself and your other co-worker, as well. The kind of limit-setting you did was both necessary and appropriate. The fact that you didn't have a hissy fit and speak in anger supports this.
But I echo the sentiments of the others who say that the end total of 32 med/surg/tele patients is way out of line for three nurses to be handling. You should have had a minimum of four and five would have been even better.
How about you nurses all band together and insist that this is a serious lapse in safe staffing and a disaster waiting to happen.
I suggest you all get professional liability insurance if you don't have it now.
Best wishes.Last edit by rn/writer on Oct 16, '11
0Oct 15, '11 by JBudd, MSN Guide[QUOTE=kalevra;5750349] I also want to point out that if the CN felt that she was in the right for how the assignments were organized then she should not change her position on the matter. If her rationale was sound, at least to her, then why change it for a request from another RN. She should have used her leadership abilities to either say no, or get you on to her side. QUOTE]
Because she was in the wrong, and there was no way "to get you on to her side". Her inexperience and/or blind self interest led her to make those decisions, not a good leadership rationale.
0Oct 15, '11 by Simply ComplicatedYou said this was telemetry. Just curious, are you responsible for reading your strips, or do you have a monitor tech? My first M/S/Tele job we hd 8 patients a piece, and that was really hard. We did have a monitor tech though, and were not really responsible for the monitor or strips. Unless of course they notified us there was a problem of some sort.
0Oct 15, '11 by anotheroneQuote from DixieRedHeadhaha. the charge where i work rarely has any more authority than me. if it is an unsafe assignemnt YOU SHOULD REFUSE IT. respect means NOTHING to me from someone like that.Not only were you unprofessional, you were insubordinate. You refuse an assignment you can be fired. "Charge nurse" means "in charge", and you should expect no more respect than you give.
1Oct 15, '11 by jesskiddingQuote from Simply ComplicatedSurely they at least have a monitor tech. There is no way each RN could monitor their (11!) patients, take care of them, pass meds, put strips in charts, read strips, and document all at the same time.You said this was telemetry. Just curious, are you responsible for reading your strips, or do you have a monitor tech? My first M/S/Tele job we hd 8 patients a piece, and that was really hard. We did have a monitor tech though, and were not really responsible for the monitor or strips. Unless of course they notified us there was a problem of some sort.
I think I would get out of this facility.
0Oct 15, '11 by Simply ComplicatedQuote from jesskiddingI would sure hope so, but I wouldn't expect them to be staffed like that either, so you never know.Surely they at least have a monitor tech. There is no way each RN could monitor their (11!) patients, take care of them, pass meds, put strips in charts, read strips, and document all at the same time.
I think I would get out of this facility.