Got an email saying that we are encouraged to have our MSN by 2017

  1. 1 Anyone else got this bomb dropped on you?? Partial tuition reimbursement will be given. I thought that getting a BSN would keep them happy. When will it be encouraged that we are all NPs or PAs or MDs?
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  3. Visit  pheonixRN} profile page

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    Joined Oct '13; Posts: 6; Likes: 8.

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  4. Visit  BrnEyedGirl} profile page
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    I'm confused,..my MSN will make me a NP,...and I won't be working as a bedside RN any longer,...not sure what you are talking about? Where is this?
  5. Visit  TiffyRN} profile page
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    Well sure, they may encourage us but I'm pretty sure that's nowhere close to happening yet. We are hiring very few ADNs but we still have 35-40% BSN and we are magnet.

    And you only have a few more years to be able to be an NP w/an MSN. All the schools seem to be aligning with the AACNs suggested DNP for NP practice.
  6. Visit  meanmaryjean} profile page
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    Not all MSNs are NPs or Advance Practice Nurses. I am an MSN (Education) and work at the bedside. Do I think one NEEDS an MSN to be a bedside nurse? Of course not! Do I think there is a PLACE for MSns at the bedside? Absolutely!

    OP: Who is the email from? You gave very little context, and I'm curious.
    Altra and prnqday like this.
  7. Visit  jrwest} profile page
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    what what what????? wow. someone's dreaming there. What purpose would an MSN serve, especially in a LTCF, or acute facility?They sure as bleep aren't going to pay us any higher per hour for that degree to offset the outlay of money. Even if they pay 50 percent.

    What MSN is going to want to work in acute care/ltc where the majority of nurses are needed?

    Wow. who thought this one up?
    aklgap, Dazglue, BSNbeDONE, and 6 others like this.
  8. Visit  jadelpn} profile page
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    Just remember, tuition reimbursement is just that---YOU put out the money, and they see what "qualifies" for the 50% they will reimburse you. And interestingly enough, there's a whole lot that they decide they will not. AND if the program is not "approved" ahead of time, you may not get back one red cent. And there's usually a cap amount per year. Sometimes, it is $1500 or so--some more, some less. That perhaps would cover books.

    Are they also going to flex your time so that you can pursue this and still work full time?

    All of the "encouraging" is fine, well, and good. But for a number of nurses, it is near impossible not to be working full time. And when you all become NP's and leave the bedside, what will they do then?
    kce32305 likes this.
  9. Visit  Esme12} profile page
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    Quote from pheonixRN
    Anyone else got this bomb dropped on you?? Partial tuition reimbursement will be given. I thought that getting a BSN would keep them happy. When will it be encouraged that we are all NPs or PAs or MDs?
    They can encourage all they want....who would do that an work nights, holiday and weekends.

    Something pushed out by academics to ensure their own job security.

    Unbelievable....another push to remove RN's from the bedside and have them "overseeing" non licensed personnel.....
    beckyboo1, Dazglue, BSNbeDONE, and 15 others like this.
  10. Visit  jrwest} profile page
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    Quote from Esme12
    Unbelievable....another push to remove RN's from the bedside and have them "overseeing" non licensed personnel.....

    My thoughts exactly.
    beckyboo1 likes this.
  11. Visit  CrunchRN} profile page
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    Seriously? Then they need to pay 100% and raise your pay to what an MSN should get.
    aklgap, Hygiene Queen, Irish_Mist, and 3 others like this.
  12. Visit  llg} profile page
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    What type of position do you have? Are you a bedside staff nurse? Are you an educator? Are you a Manager?
    Previous posters have assumed you are a bedside staff nurse. They may be wrong. I don't know.

    If you are in a leadership of some sort, then getting a Master's is a reasonable expectation. A manager or educator SHOULD have higher credentials than the majority of the staff the teach/lead. Many states REQUIRE that a certain percentage of its educators (in nursing schools) have a minimum of an MSN. The Magnet program REQUIRES that all nurses in certain positions be at least Master's prepared. etc. etc. etc. But I think most people would agree that requiring it for every hospital staff nurse is ridiculous.

    So ... what's the rest of the story here? We need a few more facts before we can make any judgments about the OP's situation.
    Altra, VickyRN, GrnTea, and 4 others like this.
  13. Visit  Esme12} profile page
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    Quote from llg
    What type of position do you have? Are you a bedside staff nurse? Are you an educator? Are you a Manager?
    Previous posters have assumed you are a bedside staff nurse. They may be wrong. I don't know.

    If you are in a leadership of some sort, then getting a Master's is a reasonable expectation. A manager or educator SHOULD have higher credentials than the majority of the staff the teach/lead. Many states REQUIRE that a certain percentage of its educators (in nursing schools) have a minimum of an MSN. The Magnet program REQUIRES that all nurses in certain positions be at least Master's prepared. etc. etc. etc. But I think most people would agree that requiring it for every hospital staff nurse is ridiculous.

    So ... what's the rest of the story here? We need a few more facts before we can make any judgments about the OP's situation.
    You are right....I made an assumption. and I shouldn't have.......
  14. Visit  HouTx} profile page
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    About 2 years ago, my organization 'raised the bar' on nursing leadership positions above Charge Nurse positions... MSN required for any new hires & incumbents have to be actively working on their MSN. Tuition reimbursement is negotiable, depending upon the individual's choice of school & overall degree plan. CNEs have to flex schedules to accommodate educational requirements. Some folks are doing online, some traditional.. all different types of arrangements.

    But, I certainly don't see the utility of requiring staff nurses to obtain MSNs. That's crazy.
    NRSKarenRN and GrnTea like this.
  15. Visit  CrunchRN} profile page
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    llg - I made an ASS(out of me)umption also. Good point.

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