Vent thread "universal" health care

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    Gotta vent here.

    Three times this week a patient or family member who was looking for more and more benefits added to their (already insured and covered and provided for) health care needs told me "THIS IS WHY WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE!"

    Ok, now, simmer down. Universal health care will do some good things. It will allow the working uninsured access to at least SOME medical care.

    "Universal" does not mean that you or your loved one will get EVERYTHING IN THE UNIVERSE!!!

    So sorry, didn't mean to shout. Thanks for the safe place to vent.
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    No system of healthcare provision entitles the needer of healthcare services everything in the Universe . There are limits to what either UHC or privately insured healthcare can provided .
    GooeyRN, Not_A_Hat_Person, StNeotser, and 1 other like this.
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    Quote from nicurn001
    No system of healthcare provision entitles the needer of healthcare services everything in the Universe . There are limits to what either UHC or privately insured healthcare can provided .
    So now if this could please be on the Times Square Jumbotron. Thanks nicurn001
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    Great thread! I believe it's Great Britian's PM who said (regarding their healthcare system) "We cover everybody, but we cannot cover everything."
    GooeyRN, nicurn001, and lindarn like this.
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    I can't afford to pay for their 'free' health care
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    Quote from Aleah_RN
    Great thread! I believe it's Great Britian's PM who said (regarding their healthcare system) "We cover everybody, but we cannot cover everything."
    Couldn't find out who the PM responsible for this Quote is , but it is a good description of the NHS .
    Apart from the covering everyone , it is applicable to privately insured healthcare in the USA , which already rations care ( through preapproval or simply denial of coverage )which does not cover everything .
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    Quote from l.rae
    I can't afford to pay for their 'free' health care
    Do you say this of all things you insure ? , eg. I can't afford to pay for their " free " car repair .
    Premiums are paid to insurers , the risk is spread through the pool of insured and claims are paid from the income generated by the premiums .
    WIN007, Isitpossible, Altra, and 6 others like this.
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    Quote from l.rae
    I can't afford to pay for their 'free' health care
    You're paying a lot more here in the U.S.
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    Quote from nicurn001
    Couldn't find out who the PM responsible for this Quote is , but it is a good description of the NHS .
    Apart from the covering everyone , it is applicable to privately insured healthcare in the USA , which already rations care ( through preapproval or simply denial of coverage )which does not cover everything .

    That was my mistake; it was John Reid, a British health minister (from a discussion he had with TR Reid, who wrote "The Healing of America).
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    Quote from nicurn001
    Do you say this of all things you insure ? , eg. I can't afford to pay for their " free " car repair .
    Premiums are paid to insurers , the risk is spread through the pool of insured and claims are paid from the income generated by the premiums .
    Invalid analogy. Everyone who drives carries car insurance; although I think there are still some states that do not require it, presumably a driver can still be personally sued if he harms someone and doesn't have it. This is not the same thing as somebody literally getting FREE healthcare, because they are not paying in to the system. To my knowledge, the government does not subsidize car insurance.

    The car insurance example is also not a valid justification for requiring everyone to purchase health insurance - you don't have to drive a car, thus you can avoid the requirement to purchase insurance. A health insurance mandate however is based upon the fact that you are simply alive.
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