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Feb 26, 2009, 08:07 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
I work in Texas, and the majority of the nurses with whom I've worked are fiercely opposed to unionization. They'd rather go through the motions without any protection or improvement in working conditions. Many, if not most, of the nurses who work in Southern states would oppose union representation if offered to them right now. It is deeply ingrained in their working culture.
I am originally from California and am shocked to see the lack of progressiveness in the workplace cultures around here.
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:07 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
It's very evident you don't understand..and for some reason, you aren't willing to comprehend what I'm telling you. You stated: "I only brought up the fact that so many of the posts/nurses COMPLAIN about the work environment. It's coming from within... not from the public." PUBLIC PERCEPTION OF THE PROFESSION AFFECTS EMPOWERMENT OF THE PROFESSION! If the public had a clearer understanding of what the nursing profession is all about, then nursing would be better empowered to deal with such issues as workplace environments. If the public finds an issue important, more power is held by those who want to change it because the public will offer support to that change agent. It's all related. But because the public doesn't value WHAT we do, they don't really care if a nurse goes 13 hours without a break..that staffing is such in many places nurses can't find adequate coverage for lunch times...that patient safety is an issue because of poor staffing, etc.
I am not hostile but you clearly don't know what you're talking about. And your lack of knowledge is actually contributing to the problem. You speak in your first post that you aren't even in the nursing program yet, still working on pre-req's then you later post "Isn't there enough of us to do something about it?" I'm sorry you're not getting this...I really am. Maybe the problem is you haven't worked as a nurse yet...maybe you haven't seen what nursing is really like. You haven't even experienced the stress of the nursing program yet...but here you sit and read on a bulletin board about current issues in the nursing profession and feel you've got a great understanding of what's going on..when clearly you don't. Maybe you just need to walk a mile in my shoes to see what's going on. Don't post as if you have all the answers...your first post implied that the solution was so simple, you didn't understand why this problem was being allowed to continue. As if no one had ever considered trying to fix the problem.
Nurses aren't ALLOWING this to happen, we are trying to change environments every day. But outside influences are a big factor in determine practicing..it's like that with any field in medicine. Don't think so? How come OB/GYN's have been nearly driven out of practice due to high malpractice insurance costs...that's an external factor. We WANT TO CHANGE THINGS...but can only do so much with the way the system is set up.
Again, I challenge you not to just comment upon the problem but to get INVOLVED and become an agent for change. You say you want to join the profession, well welcome to the ranks. Come on board. Just don't criticize without getting involved. If, one day, after you complete your nursing program and become a nurse, you're going to see on a daily basis what I'm talking about. Why not start working now to influence the profession for change? Why wait?
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:09 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
By the way, there's a nurse in the US Congress. Lois Capps has been an RN since 1968.
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:13 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton?? Originally Posted by imalilteapott I don't understand your hostility. I only brought up the fact that so many of the posts/nurses COMPLAIN about the work environment. It's coming from within... not from the public.
I can answer your question: The posters hostility comes from your ignorance and bad attitude combination. Its fine to ask the question but politely.You however asked in very negative demeaning way.
To inform you ...yes there certainly are nurse lobbyists on the state and federal levels. Nursing organizations and other healthcare interest groups have lobbyist defending the nursing profession. The media and public view of nurses is a sad one. The public knows us for our caring and not for our knowledge. ( YOU my friend will learn in nursing school that it is A LOT of knowledge and you have to be VERY smart to not only pass school/boards/keep a job or to even get a job! ) The media shows nurses as a bedpan emptying big boobed females looking to marry a doctor. ( If there are even nurses on the show!!! When was the last time anyone has seen a doc starting an IV or a drip??)
There are lots of nurses trying to change the nursing for the better and once you open your eyes and do some reading you will see there is a LOT of opposition for nurses to overcome (the negative images listed above, hospitals, MD's, the AMA, and sometimes even ourselves)
My point again is there are lots and lots of nurses trying to make things better. In fact I am one of those nurses....I plan on getting my phD in HealthPolicy and it is my personal goal to change nursing for the better. I want to and hope to make our nursing organizations as big and powerful as the AMA so we can finally get the respect and the voice we deserve.
Ok I think ive ranted enough today................  [/quote]
Excellent reply..and I applaud you for your attitude and desire to have a positive impact on the profession for change. I think you see where I'm coming from in regards to this poster. It's clear he doesn't know much about the profession yet but finds it necessary to comment on things he doesn't have a full understanding of. Maybe I'm too passionate but I find that kind of attitude frustrating and actually a huge part of the problem. It's all about perception and it's clear he doesn't see all the external influences that play into the problem. Hopefully, one day we can make the necessary changes to this profession so we can not have to deal with such issues..I just don't know if it will actually take place in my lifetime.
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:19 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
I live in a" right to work" state. Simply put, they have the right to hire you for any reason, and the right to fire you without reason. When you basically have no rights as an employee, your options are pretty limited. Every 5 years or so, they trump up some reason to fire nurses that are reaching retirement age. This accomplishes two goals. They boot you from your retirement benefits, and they can replace you with two new grads at base scale for your topped out pay rate.
Ain't that just dandy?
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Feb 26, 2009, 08:20 PM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton?? Originally Posted by TheCommuter I work in Texas, and the majority of the nurses with whom I've worked are fiercely opposed to unionization. They'd rather go through the motions without any protection or improvement in working conditions. Many, if not most, of the nurses who work in Southern states would oppose union representation if offered to them right now. It is deeply ingrained in their working culture.
I am originally from California and am shocked to see the lack of progressiveness in the workplace cultures around here.
I found this issue quite surprising when I worked in the South. Yes, it is ingrained in working culture. And what is sad is how tight a grip the hospital administrators have on the profession. Nurses have been threatened for so long they are afraid to take a stand. Our profession attracts many who are single parents who can't afford to lose their jobs. Hospital administrators have no qualms letting it be known if a union is brought in, they will start cutting positions. When I worked at Duke a few years back, the nurses there were voting on implementing a union. The turmoil caused by the administration made the vote very close but ultimately it was voted down. The fear was too great and that's actually easy to understand. And it's sad. I've never seen such poor pay and lack of respect for the profession as I did in the South.
I had physicians who actually got up in arms if I questioned an order...or if I made suggestions. And most of the time, they'd then turn around and do what I suggested anyway. Hmmm...maybe my brain was supposed to melt when I went down there. I actually had a nurse who was precepting me tell me "we don't ever suggest things to physicians". Talk about a God complex!!!!How can you be a patient advocate if you can't question an order???? Confusing.
And lack of pay in the South is also another issue affecting the profession. I took a huge paycut when I moved to NC. I was given some song and dance about lower cost of living but I don't believe that. I personally believe it's lack of respect for the profession. But I digress.
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Feb 27, 2009, 01:00 AM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
To get the best answer to your question " " Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??" , I've moved your thread to our activism forum.
Check out my plentiful stickers at the top of this forum, especially 2/4/09: Nursing Activism Primer-- Legislation, Lobbying/ Contacting Elected Officials Stop here first: Activism Topic links What in the world does the ANA do?
For the past 100 years, ANA has been advocating at the national level on Federal Government Affairs for issues that affect entire counry, leaving each individual state assocaition to handle legislation at the state level, especially practice act/ state board of nursing issues. ANA has several staffers that are registered lobyists. Some states have a strong hand and own lobbyist at their states capital (NY and PA come to mind)...while others are rarely seen by their legislatures.
ANA has now beefed up coverage of state activities: State Government Affairs
They monitor over 1000 nursing and health care related bills introduced in state legislatures accross the country.
See: Nationwide State Legislative Agenda, 2008-2009 Reports To date through February 2, 2009, state legislators responded with the establishment of laws / regulations / resolutions as follows: Elimination of Mercury in the Health Care Setting Prohibit use of mercury in thermometers in 16 states:- CA, CT, IL, IN, LA, ME, MD, MA, MI, MN, NH, NJ*, NY, OR, RI, WA
NJ legislation does not apply to thermometers used in health care Prohibit the sale and distribution of mercury in medical products in 9 states:- LA, ME, MA, MI, MN, NH, NY, VT, WA
Restrict the use of Thimerosal in vaccines in 4 states:Restriction in Use of Mandatory Overtime—in 15 states: - CT, IL, MD, MN, NH, NJ, NY, OR, PA, RI, WA, WV (legislated)
- CA, MO, TX (regulations)
NursingEducation a number of funding initiatves are enacted each year in several states; refer to the full report for specifics Mandatory Continuing Education for RN licensure renewal required - 31 states
AL, AK, AR, CA, DE, DC, FL, IL, IA, KS, KY, LA, MA, MI, MN, MI, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NC, OH, PA, RI, SC, TX, UT, VI, WV, WY
The RN to BSN in ten years initiative is described in the full report. Nursing Quality Indicators—in 5 states:
CO, CT, ME, RI; TX [regulations] ; FL passed legislation to study (1996) Nurse Staffing Plans and Ratios—enacted legislation/adopted regulations in 13 states plus DC:- CA, CT, FL, IL, NJ, OH, OR, RI, VT, WA; TX [regulations];
- states requiring staffing plans include: CT, IL, OH, OR, RI, TX, WA
- states requiring disclosure: NJ, VT
- DC and ME* - changed from orginal intent; currently without a staffing mandate
- NV - legislation required a study
Nursing Workforce Data Collection—in 40 states:- AL, AK, AZ, CA, CO, CT, DE, FL, GA, HI, ID, IL, IN, IA, KY, LA, MD, ME, MA, MI, MS, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, NC, ND, OK, OR, PA, SC, SD, TN, TX, VT, VA, WA, WV, WI
Safe Patient Handling and Movement — enacted in 8 states:- MD, MN, NJ, NY, OH, RI, TX, WA; plus HI [resolution]
Title "Nurse" Protection— statutory protections in at least 25 states:- AZ, CA, CO, FL, HI, KY, ID, MD, MN, MO, NE, NV, NM, NY, NC, ND, RI, SC, TN, TX, UT, WA, WV, WI, WY
Whistleblower Protection—in 20 states:- AZ, CA, CO, FL, GA, HI, IL, IN, ME, MD, MI, NV, NJ, NY, OR, TX, UT, VT, VA, and WV
* refer to the report for specific protections. Workplace Violence—in 14 states:- IL, ME, NJ, NY, OR, WA, WV ; HI (resolution)
- AL, AZ, CO, HI, IL, NV, NC, and NM each responded with increased penalties for violence affecting nurses
Capitol Update is the ANA Government Affairs' free, online legislative and political newsletter on issues that impact nurses.
I'm a member of Wanted: Nurses Strategic Action Team (N-STAT)
ANA's Nurses Strategic Action Team (N-STAT) makes it easy for you to unite with your colleagues across the nation and let lawmakers know how you feel by keeping you up to speed on key bills as they move through Congress and letting you know when your emails, phone calls, and letter will make the most impact.
In 2003, ANA helped develop Information on Congressional Nursing Caucus [pdf]
The Congressional Nursing Caucus provides a forum for addressing issues that affect the nursing community, such as flaws in the current health care system and the shortage of RNs. It is open to all members of the House of Representatives. The current co-chairs of the caucus are Representative Lois Capps (D-CA) and Representative Steven LaTourette (R-OH). Legislation & Issues Learn about federal legislation and issues that affect us, our patients, and our nation. Agencies & Regulatory Affairs ANA monitors executive departments regarding the regulations they issue and their implementation of federal laws.
When Congress passes laws, they rarely contain enough specific language to guide their implementation completely. It is the responsibility of the federal administrative agencies to fill in the details of new or amended laws with rules and regulations. Regulations/rules are used to clarify definitions, authority, eligibility, benefits, and standards. Their development is shaped not only by the law but also with the ongoing involvement and input of professional associations like ANA, other providers, third party payers, consumers and other special interest groups.
The development of rules takes time and follows a defined process: - The publication of the proposed rule in the Federal Register offers an opportunity for those with an interest in the particular rule to react to the draft rule before it becomes final. ANA routinely reviews the Federal Register for proposed regulations.
- ANA reviews regulations of particular interest to the nursing community, analyzing them and identifying concerns.
- If necessary, ANA submits comments to the agency recommending changes to the proposed regulation. Commenting on draft rules is one of the most active points of involvement in the entire legislative process.
- The agency reviews all public comments received within the comment period and may make changes to the proposed rule.
- After additional agency review the final rule is published and takes effect.
What Federal Agencies Does ANA Monitor? Agency for Health Research and Quality-(AHRQ) sponsors and conducts research that provides evidence-based information on health care outcomes; quality; and cost, use, and access. The information helps health care decisionmakers-patients and clinicians, health system leaders, purchasers, and policymakers-make more informed decisions and improve the quality of health care services. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention-(CDC) is recognized as the lead federal agency for protecting the health and safety of people - at home and abroad, providing credible information to enhance health decisions, and promoting health through strong partnerships. CDC serves as the national focus for developing and applying disease prevention and control, environmental health, and health promotion and education activities designed to improve the health of the people of the United States. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services- (CMS) The HHS agency responsible for administering the Medicare program and parts of the Medicaid program. CMS has historically maintained specifications for various certifications and authorizations used by the Medicare and Medicaid programs. CMS is responsible for oversight of HIPAA administrative simplification transaction and code sets, health identifiers, and security standards. CMS also maintains the HCPCS medical code set. The Department of Health and Human Services- (HHS) is the United States government's principal agency for protecting the health of all Americans and providing essential human services through more than 300 programs which are administered by 11 HHS operating divisions, including eight agencies in the U.S. Public Health Service and three human services agencies. Department of Justice (DOJ) Anti-trust Division exists to promote and protect the competitive process - and the American economy - through the enforcement of the antitrust laws. The antitrust laws apply to virtually all industries and to every level of business, including manufacturing, transportation, distribution, and marketing. They prohibit a variety of practices that restrain trade, such as price-fixing conspiracies, corporate mergers likely to reduce the competitive vigor of particular markets, and predatory acts designed to achieve or maintain monopoly power. Department of Labor-(DOL) is charged with issues relating to workplace safety and health, pensions and benefit plans, employment and other issues related to the American workplace. Department of Veterans' Affairs (VA) provides information on VA programs, veteran benefits, VA facilities world wide and VA medical automation systems. Drug Enforcement Agency-(DEA) enforces the controlled substances laws and regulations of the United States. Food and Drug Administration-(FDA) is the federal agency responsible for ensuring that foods are safe, wholesome and sanitary; human and veterinary drugs, biological products, and medical devices are safe and effective; cosmetics are safe; and electronic products that emit radiation are safe. FDA also ensures that these products are honestly, accurately and informatively represented to the public. The Health Resources and Services Administration-(HRSA) HRSA's mission is to improve and expand access to quality health care for all by eliminating barriers to care, eliminating health disparities, assuring quality of care and improving public health and health care systems. The National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health-(NIOSH) is the Federal agency responsible for conducting research and making recommendations for the prevention of work-related disease and injury. The Institute is part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). The National Institute of Nursing Research-(NINR) supports clinical and basic research to establish a scientific basis for the care of individuals across the life span-from management of patients during illness and recovery to the reduction of risks for disease and disability, the promotion of healthy lifestyles, promoting quality of life in those with chronic illness, and care for individuals at the end of life. Occupational Safety and Health Administration-(OSHA) is the government agency that establishes protective standards, enforces those standards, and reaches out to employers and employees through technical assistance and consultation programs. The Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration-(SAMHSA) is the Federal agency charged with improving the quality and availability of prevention, treatment, and rehabilitative services in order to reduce illness, death, disability, and cost to society resulting from substance abuse and mental illnesses. U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service-(INS) transitioned into the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) as the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (BCIS). The BCIS is responsible for the administration of immigration and naturalization adjudication functions and establishing immigration services policies and priorities. How Can Individual Nurses Impact Federal Rules and Regulations?- Learn about the federal rule making process and how to make your voice heard.
- Become informed about the public policy and the health policy issues currently under consideration at the federal level of government.
- Check out the Federal Register. It is the very best source of information about proposed new rules and changes to existing rules for federal programs. It is printed every day and contains all complete directions on where to send your comments and the deadlines for the public comment period.
- Work with your state nurses association by offering your expertise to assist in developing new regulations or modifying existing regulations.
- Work with your state nurses association to offer your expertise to help prepare comments on proposed regulations.
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Feb 27, 2009, 10:11 AM
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Feb 27, 2009 at 10:12 AM by californiadreaming
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton??
Thanks for all who responded. Let me clarify my post.
I am changing careers. Even though I'm not a nurse, or even in NS, I feel I should have an idea of what other nurses are saying about their career choice.
Needless to say, there are more negative comments than positive on this board . Now wait, don't toss me into the furnace yet.....is it not true there are some issues that could be/should be corrected? I have never heard anyone (in any field) working 12 hours without a meal or break. If this is typical, then there's a major problem that should be addressed.
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Apr 02, 2009, 11:51 AM
Re: Is there a nursing representative/lobbyist in washngton?? Originally Posted by hellerd2003 I'm not lobbying in Washington, but in a week I'll be lobbying at my state capitol. For free-- lobbyists in my state for nursing rights don't get paid; we get listened to and shot down. But still we persevere.
I don't "allow" the poor work environments to continue; however, until state AND federal laws change, nurse working environments will be poor.
Here's an idea. Instead of being critical of working nurses (who because of family, work schedules, student loans, workplace repercussions; cannot take time off from work to lobby), how about YOU as a student completing prerequisites work in a lobbist fashion and send letters to congressmen/ senators; attend rallys; etc.
Fighting for change is hard, and as one in the "mix", this posting was offensive. I am doing all I can do, financially and professionally, and face ire from coworkers against my movement every time I'm at work.
I am interested in getting involved in my state. How did you get involved? How did you find out where to go? How do you get access to a debate? how do you get listened to and shot down?
Also, I am thinking that I need to be prepared--I think any really successful lobbyist can count on being turned away at the door for employment by the organizations that want him/her to shut up.
OOPS! just saw your post nursekaren, thanks!
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