Nurses outraged by plan to strip health professionals of overtime pay - page 4

Some nurses are outraged over a quiet move by the U.S. Department of Labor that could strip registered nurses and other health professionals nationwide from overtime pay. South Florida... Read More

  1. by   susanhrn
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the Emancipation Proclamation set slaves free ?? Why then, because we strive to be professional, should we now be "mandated" to work 50 - 60 hours a week but only get paid a straight 40 hour salary ??

    The flip side might be that if we are only paid for 40 hours then we can't be forced to work any more than 40 hours, but I'm quite positive that the one sided congress and senate will be sure there are provisions for that as well.

    I think this should be a wake-up call for nursing to do as the physicians do which is to contract services. If we become contractual employees, the pay and benefits are much better (as are the working hours). You can stipulate up front what your hourly rate will be and what conditions you require in order to safely perform your duties (much as anesthesists and midwifery do).
  2. by   susanhrn
    This would be an incredibly opportune time for every nurse in the United States to put in their 30 - 60 day notice. I do believe that such an action would send a very loud and crystal clear message to "Corporate" healthcare and "Corporate" senate/congress that we "The People" have had enough !!:roll
  3. by   jnette
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    Forget the outrage, since it isn't effective...Instead, what can we do to soften the blow of this impending change and turn it to our advantage? Some of the big league players need to get into debate and discussions over this to demand terms and so on...
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    Originally posted by mkue
    I agree Zorya.
    Unfortunately, ppl often must first FEEL the outrage in order to be MOVED to do something about current issues.... nothing wrong with being outraged, as long as we FOLLOW UP with action !
  4. by   CseMgr1
    Originally posted by oramar
    I wrote this to my representative, "I know the rich will always steal from the poor and the strong will always prey on the weak, my complaint is that you politicians drive the getaway car and hold my front door open for them".
    Way to go, Oramar! I couldn't have said it better, myself!
  5. by   karbyr
    thanks geekgolightly
  6. by   RN Zeke
    Pick a Union to represent the medical workers of the USA- is what we are being forced to do.
  7. by   ozzierock
    you guys have been getting overtime!!! we in australia have been doing unpaid overtime for years. if we work over and ask our supervisor for overtime we get asked to explian what is wrong with our time management! the only time you ever get anything is if there is a stuff up in the staffing for the upcoming shift ie someone doesn't turn up, someone is going to be late ( a little bit late doesn't count) or if you are asked to do a double because they couldn't fill a spot with an agency nurse. I have worked for hours and hours of unpaid time since becoming a nurse. it's endemic here and so hard to do anything about no one tries anymore
  8. by   rachaelm4
    I JUST READ THE PROPOSAL AT THE DEPT OF LABOR AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE CUTTING OVERTIME FOR NURSES, READ IT FOR YOURSELVES..

    http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/esa/ESA2003146.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speeches/541Handout.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speech...de_By_Side.htm
  9. by   teeituptom
    NEVER VOTE REPUBLICAN. IF YOU DO YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SO DOES EVERYONE ELSE.
  10. by   PennyLane
    Originally posted by rachaelm4
    I JUST READ THE PROPOSAL AT THE DEPT OF LABOR AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE CUTTING OVERTIME FOR NURSES, READ IT FOR YOURSELVES..

    http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/esa/ESA2003146.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speeches/541Handout.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speech...de_By_Side.htm
    As I understand it, the problem is that nurses will be considered 'learned professionals', meaning they receive on-the-job or community college training, and therefore will be EXEMPT from receiving overtime pay.

    http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speeches/541Handout.htm
  11. by   geekgolightly
    Originally posted by rachaelm4
    I JUST READ THE PROPOSAL AT THE DEPT OF LABOR AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE THEY ARE CUTTING OVERTIME FOR NURSES, READ IT FOR YOURSELVES..

    http://www.dol.gov/opa/media/press/esa/ESA2003146.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speeches/541Handout.htm http://www.dol.gov/_sec/media/speech...de_By_Side.htm
    Read these and tell me what you think

    Bush Continues Attack on Overtime



    The U.S. Department of Labor is accepting public comments until June 30 on the proposal to cut overtime pay, reduce overtime protections and cut the take-home pay of millions of working Americans.

    The Bush administration is pressing forward to have their over-time "pay cuts" go into effect as soon as September. This will affect millions of workers, many of which depend on their over-time to make ends meet. The Bush administration's plan would continue to chip away at the 40 hour work week. Chances are that when you speak of overtime, it will be in the "past tense" if the Bush administration has its way.

    Of the average workers who receive it, overtime pay makes up about one-fourth of their weekly earnings. This will mean an average pay cut of $161 per week and can add up to thousands per year.

    Some highlights or should we say "lowlights" from the Bush proposal:


    Excludes previously protected workers by reclassifying them as managers, administrative or professional employees who are not eligible for overtime pay.
    Eliminates certain middle-income workers from overtime protections by adding an income limit, above which workers no longer qualify for overtime.
    Removes from overtime protection large numbers of workers in aerospace, defense, health care, high tech and other industries.

    http://www.cwa-legis-pol.org/hottopics/bushplan.pdf

    AND

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/.../~c108jvnHRB::

    Which essentially states that those who have overtime can be compensated by "paid time off" rather than overtime.

    If they don;t getcha one way, they will surely getcha another way.
  12. by   eb_rn
    Being outraged isnt enough, we must contact our gov. officials and press for change. Keep talking and writing until we are heard. Contact our local newspapers and have a letter published in the opinions section. Our country is based on democracy, but for it to work, we must use all of our avenues and oppertunities, which means Doing Something, not just talking about it. I am sending email and written letters to my gov. officials, locally as well as in DC.
  13. by   Enabled
    Originally posted by NRSKarenRN
    Some nurses are outraged over a quiet move by the U.S. Department of Labor that could strip registered nurses and other health professionals nationwide from overtime pay.

    South Florida Sun-Sentinel, June 25, 2003

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/loc...sfla-news-sfla
    It has been a while since I posted and when I saw this in my email I couldnl't believe it. When I wqs a clerk/tech up north we got time and a half with 8 hours off if it was a holiday. I will be finishing up my degree in Nursing in Dec. and wonder if I should return now. After twenty years and they want to take it away. No way. That overtime of the past is what is giving me the opportunity to go on.
    Just in the last couple of months the University of Central Florida got a raise around $250,000. The tuition went up by 12%. Now they are to be capped by the legislature. They have been piling it on for years. What do college presidents do other than to sit in on meetings that someone else has planned out. a photo op with new construction, or just a PR person. I don't believe it is fair if the student body is increasing and most of the financial aid comes out of the federal government then why are rates so high.
    I guess it is still the ol' boys syndrome. She is a woman and she doesn't need much. Many women are supporting children without any help and going to school. I was once told that things would not be better until there were more men Hog WASH
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