No Way To Treat Nurses - page 2

Especially in this time of shortages of nurses who are still willing to work in hospitals. THIS is how RN strikes are provoked by management. THIS is why RN strikes happen. Stuff like this really... Read More

  1. by   FTell001
    but "quitting"......even temporaily..by EVERY NURSE in the country.....
    NOW..tell me who they would replace us with?
    I'll bet that would get the message across..and there is NO law against "quitting"...but it would have to be en masse!
  2. by   -jt
    The Taylor Law applies to all govt/public workers I think. And if they did strike, it would be illegal & therefore they could be fired & replaced.... like the Air Traffic Controlers - whos employer is the President of the United States. In a LEGAL strike (not govt/public workers) - caused by the employers unfair labor practice - the workers have a legal right to strike & not be fired or permanently replaced.

    <<<but "quitting"......even temporaily..by EVERY NURSE in the country.....
    NOW..tell me who they would replace us with?
    I'll bet that would get the message across..and there is NO law against "quitting"...but it would have to be en masse!>>>


    Back to square one - what would the message be? How to lose public support in an instant? What would be different the next day when everybody went back to work? Over & done with.
    And if anyone thinks the RNs of this country will ever support each other en mass, just wait till the nurses in the article above are forced to strike over this situation & then count the number of other nurses that are bussed in by the "travel" agencies, all of them jumping at the chance to cross the RN strike line for that golden dangling carrot.

    In the event of a planned national RN walk-out, if the employers threats of firing & the onslaught of scare tactics regarding things like licensure discipline dont work to convince enough RNs to not participate, a few extra bucks as an "incentive" will.
  3. by   lifeisbeautiful
    Quote from Agnus
    I am working on my BSN. I read a couple of days ago in my Nursing management textbook that "Empoyers have The right to permanently relpace striking employees. "!!!!!!!!!
    Really! Wow. I didn't know that. So much for protection from a Union, huh? My hospital, a very large well know facility in Los Angeles voted in a Union, and the hospital is furious!!! They are fighting the outcome at the Supreme Court. Tell you what.... when the hospital learned that there were more nurses for the Union than against it (prior to voting)...nurses got these great pay raises with the promise of another raise in 6 months and miraculously, "forced" overtime disappeared? Management was also actually willing to work with our hours!Hmmmmmm? I wonder where my hospital would find 3,000+ nurses to replace the striking ones if we ever went on strike?
  4. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from zudy
    -jt, this CEO might have letters after her name that say RN, but she is no nurse. She is obviously a disgrace to the profession. I've said it before, the only thing that gets me thru the day is the complete belief that there is a special place in hell for hospital administrators.
    I agree. The CEO is no nurse. She is a betrayer.
  5. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from lifeisbeautiful
    Really! Wow. I didn't know that. So much for protection from a Union, huh? My hospital, a very large well know facility in Los Angeles voted in a Union, and the hospital is furious!!! They are fighting the outcome at the Supreme Court. Tell you what.... when the hospital learned that there were more nurses for the Union than against it (prior to voting)...nurses got these great pay raises with the promise of another raise in 6 months and miraculously, "forced" overtime disappeared? Management was also actually willing to work with our hours!Hmmmmmm? I wonder where my hospital would find 3,000+ nurses to replace the striking ones if we ever went on strike?

    Any facility that treats nurses fairly and pays them fairly does not have to worry about a union being voted in.
    The best way to avoid nursing unions is to treat nurses well and pay them well!

    lifeisbeautiful, good luck to you and your sisters in your fight!
  6. by   mattsmom81
    Quote from Hellllllo Nurse
    I agree. The CEO is no nurse. She is a betrayer.
    Sadly I have been disappointed again and again by my fellow staff nurses (not just managers)...who talk big in private but will not dare stand behind their words come crunch time. If this doesn't change, neither will our collective situation, IMO.

    Divide and conquer is how management keeps nurses down.

    God Bless the nurses in NYS for standing up...together... to be counted.
    They are an example for the entire country's nurses.
  7. by   BabyRN2Be
    I noticed that this was originally posted in October of 2002. How did this turn out? Anyone know?
  8. by   -jt
    Quote from BabyRN2Be
    How did this turn out? Anyone know?
    yes. the nurses got what they were fighting for - safe staffing ratios as well as improved benefits and salaries - incentives to retain & recruit RNs.
    see:


    Montefiore RNs Fight to Get Back to the Table
    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com...efiore_neg.htm
    .....so on Oct. 22, more than 1000 registered nurses picketed in front of the Bronx facility's two locations to protest and distribute informational flyers to the community. Supporting the nurses were hospital house staff, attending physicians, members of 1199/SEIU, and community residents. More than 200 nurses came to one negotiating session to say that they fully support their negotiating committee and to actively participate in the process. NYSNA has notified the hospital Board of Directors that if management does not return to the table by mid-November, the nurses will engage in a media saturation campaign. NYSNA is already making arrangements for radio, newspaper, and outdoor advertising.....

    THEN:

    Success in long fight for staffing guidelines at Montefiore
    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com...montefiore.htm
    ....The three-year agreement, ratified Dec. 10, provides for detailed unit-by-unit, shift-by-shift, RN-to-patient ratios that will be enforceable through arbitration. The contract also improves salaries, experience differentials, and health benefits. Enforceable ratios, competitive salaries
    With the staffing ratio guidelines negotiated directly into the contract....


    And:

    Montefiore Nurses Approve New Contract
    SAFE STAFFING RATIOS, IMPROVED HEALTH BENEFITS, INCREASED SALARIES, DIFFERENTIALS, and COMPENSATION
    http://www.nysna.org/news/press/pr2002/pr121002.htm
    .....After enduring nearly four years of frustration, the 1,900 registered nurses at Montefiore Medical Center have finally won guidelines for safe staffing. “In this contract, management recognized the importance of experienced nurses, as well as providing for recruitment in order to meet the RN staffing ratios they’ve committed to,.....” “Management knew they had made a mistake,” said Tom Darby, NYSNA labor representative. “To their credit they recognized this and came back to the table.” After several late-night sessions, the two negotiating committees came to a settlement just before Thanksgiving.....

    LAST BUT NOT LEAST:

    NYSNA Wins Million $ Settlement for Bronx RNs
    NYSNA and the Nurses Sue—and Win!
    Nurses Receive Checks for Up to $80,000

    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com.../bronx_rns.htm
    .....Twenty-six nurses who work at North Central Bronx Hospital (NCB) are celebrating this month after winning their long fight for justice with the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation (HHC). The nurses had lost thousands of dollars in annual salaries plus accumulated sick and vacation time when HHC ended a contractual arrangement with Montefiore Medical Center. NYSNA’s $1,241,936 settlement victory gives the nurses every single dollar HHC originally denied them, plus 3% interest retroactive to 1995. HHC also agreed to pay almost $25,000 in attorney’s fees.
    The average award was more than $48,000, and a number of nurses received more than $60,000 and $70,000, up to $80,000......
    Last edit by -jt on Jul 11, '04
  9. by   Destinystar
    That is great news!
    Quote from -jt
    yes. the nurses got what they were fighting for - safe staffing ratios as well as improved benefits and salaries - incentives to retain & recruit RNs.
    see:


    Montefiore RNs Fight to Get Back to the Table
    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com...efiore_neg.htm
    .....so on Oct. 22, more than 900 registered nurses picketed in front of the Bronx facility's two locations to protest and distribute informational flyers to the community. Supporting the nurses were hospital house staff, attending physicians, members of 1199/SEIU, and community residents. NYSNA has notified the hospital Board of Directors that if management does not return to the table by mid-November, the nurses will engage in a media saturation campaign. NYSNA is already making arrangements for radio, newspaper, and outdoor advertising.....

    THEN:

    Success in long fight for staffing guidelines at Montefiore
    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com...montefiore.htm
    ....The three-year agreement, ratified Dec. 10, provides for detailed unit-by-unit, shift-by-shift, RN-to-patient ratios that will be enforceable through arbitration. The contract also improves salaries, experience differentials, and health benefits. Enforceable ratios, competitive salaries
    With the staffing ratio guidelines negotiated directly into the contract....


    And:

    Montefiore Nurses Approve New Contract
    SAFE STAFFING RATIOS, IMPROVED HEALTH BENEFITS, INCREASED SALARIES, DIFFERENTIALS, and COMPENSATION
    http://www.nysna.org/news/press/pr2002/pr121002.htm
    ....."In this contract, management agreed to recognized the importance of experienced nurses, as well as providing for recruitment in order to meet the RN staffing ratios they've committed to,....." "Management knew they had made a mistake," said Tom Darby, NYSNA labor representative. "To their credit they recognized this and came back to the table." After several late-night sessions, the two negotiating committees came to a settlement just before Thanksgiving.....

    LAST BUT NOT LEAST:

    NYSNA Wins Million $ Settlement for Bronx RNs
    NYSNA and the Nurses Sue--and Win!
    Nurses Receive Checks for Up to $80,000

    http://www.nysna.org/departments/com.../bronx_rns.htm
    .....Twenty-six nurses who work at North Central Bronx Hospital (NCB) are celebrating this month after winning their long fight for justice with the New York City Health and Hospitals Corporation (HHC). The nurses had lost thousands of dollars in annual salaries plus accumulated sick and vacation time when HHC ended a contractual arrangement with Montefiore Medical Center. NYSNA's $1,241,936 settlement victory gives the nurses every single dollar HHC originally denied them, plus 3% interest retroactive to 1995. HHC also agreed to pay almost $25,000 in attorney's fees.
    The average award was more than $48,000, and a number of nurses received more than $60,000 and $70,000, up to $80,000......

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