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Aug 07, 2007 12:26 AM

Mt. Sinai Hospital Chicago RN's Reject CNA/NNOC Representation


Mt. Sinai RN's voted 152 to 293 AGAINST union respresentation by the California Nurse Association/ National Nurses Organizing Comittee.

Congratulations on keeping the Profession Professional!!!

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from ocankhe
Old Aug 07, 2007, 08:33 AM

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It doesn't matter to me if the nurses vote for or against unionization at their facility. However, being a member in a Union has nothing to do with whether you are a professional or not. Some of the most powerful unions in this country are made up of professionals.
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from HM2VikingRN
Old Aug 08, 2007, 01:12 PM
Updated Aug 09, 2007 at 12:02 PM by HM2VikingRN

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The Chamber of Commerce is a union for businessman as is the NFIB, etc.

That being said the equation of union membership as non-professional is a fatuous statement on its face.
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from Sherwood
Old Aug 08, 2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HM2Viking View Post
The Chamber of Congress is a union for businessman as is the NFIB, etc.

That being said the equation of union membership as non-professional is a fatuous statement on its face.
I could not find in a google search what the Chamber of Congress is. I looked up the NFIB which calls themselves a small business advocacy group. Membership is voluntary and they think pretty poorly of labor unions judging from the action center link on their home page which states "STOP THE UNION AGENDA" and links to the following:

http://www.nfib.com/object/NFIBCardCheck.html

Thank you very much as I do not have this link on my own website but will be adding it now.


We voted against the California Nurses Association twice at my hospital, Western Medical Center in Santa Ana, California. I am proud to have had a small hand in educating the nurses at Mt Sinai.

Sherwood Cox, R.N., CCRN
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from Sherwood
Old Aug 09, 2007, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by HM2Viking View Post
The Chamber of Congress is a union for businessman as is the NFIB, etc.

That being said the equation of union membership as non-professional is a fatuous statement on its face.
I guess you ment Chamber of Commerce?

They don't consider themselves a Labor Union either and membership is purely voluntary.

Here is some links to their website and their position on unions.

http://www.uschamber.com/issues/index/labor/nlra.htm

http://www.uschamber.com/NR/rdonlyre...kFactsheet.pdf

http://www.uschamber.com/NR/rdonlyre...cyPaperPDF.pdf

Judging from these statements the Chamber of COMMERCE is not a union.

But call me FATUOUS....... http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/fatuous

Sherwood Cox, R.N., CCRN
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from bigreddog1934
Old Aug 10, 2007, 04:42 AM

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sherwood - just out of curiosity, where did you get this story? i would be interested in reading more about it as someone who is considering transfer to their trauma center one day.
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from Sherwood
Old Aug 10, 2007, 10:06 AM
Updated Aug 10, 2007 at 12:58 PM by Sherwood

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Originally Posted by bigreddog1934 View Post
sherwood - just out of curiosity, where did you get this story? i would be interested in reading more about it as someone who is considering transfer to their trauma center one day.
I was contacted by RN's there through my website many months ago and have kept in touch ever since. They let me know via email once the votes were counted.
They actual election was held June but the NNOC stalled on counting the votes until earlier this week. I guess they anticipated the outcome.
I did a search and come up with this link:
http://chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/n...25945&seenIt=1

I hope it helps!

Sherwood Cox, R.N., CCRN
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from bigreddog1934
Old Aug 10, 2007, 07:22 PM

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well its clear the business community is happy about the outcome here. undoubtedly this is a significant defeat for the young union in chicago. it will send a chill through nurses trying to organize in the future.
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from Sherwood
Old Aug 10, 2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bigreddog1934 View Post
well its clear the business community is happy about the outcome here. undoubtedly this is a significant defeat for the young union in chicago. it will send a chill through nurses trying to organize in the future.
The NNOC is no young union!!! It is a branch of California Nurses Association and they have been around for YEARS. The CNA is having a hard time fooling the nurses in California anymore so has had to branch out to other states.

Sherwood
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from bigreddog1934
Old Aug 10, 2007, 10:06 PM

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the cna is the fastest growing union, member for member in the united states. it is very young by comparrison (u.b.c was founded in 1886) and is only a couple of years old in the city of chicago.

the cna can be voted out of the hospitals in california or at any facilty. after the 5:1 pt. to nurse ratio, this is not likely to happen.
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