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  1. by   mysticalwaters1
    Quote from gringoloco1973
    O my whats next a jehovah witness nurse can refuse to give her patient a blood transfusion.
    OH BOY! Can you just imagine! Ikes!!!! :uhoh21:
  2. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Quote from gringoloco1973
    O my whats next a jehovah witness nurse can refuse to give her patient a blood transfusion.
    They can, apparently.
  3. by   mysticalwaters1
    Quote from Marie_LPN
    They can, apparently.
    You know what i think your right agh!
  4. by   Tweety
    Quote from gringoloco1973
    O my whats next a jehovah witness nurse can refuse to give her patient a blood transfusion.

    I work with a JW nurse, and she declines to administer blood to her patients and we accept and that work with her on that. (I work med-surg, where blood products are not emergent).

    It's the right thing to do.
  5. by   mysticalwaters1
    Quote from Tweety
    I work with a JW nurse, and she declines to administer blood to her patients and we accept and that work with her on that. (I work med-surg, where blood products are not emergent).

    It's the right thing to do.
    I just find it hard since nursing deals with all different treatments. I had one pt who was upset because the one nurse just hung it and would not let her "bless the blood" because she felt it was part of another's soul going into her. Whatever you want! I let her witht he second unit i was just glad to get the blood in!
  6. by   Soleilpie
    Quote from mysticalwaters1
    Yes because many christians, not all, feel gays are wrong so either way he's catering to that view point for votes before and now republican support. And if that statement is true trying to cater to people who support gays or feel nothing wrong with lifestyle but maybe disagree with just marriage. That's been his scheme. Same with the schiavo case he supported although he's backing out realizing that people are mixed about the situation. All politicians do this which is why gay marriage was a main issue in the campaign rather than what really counted which is revolting. :angryfire
    Bush didn't know he was being recorded. It was done without his knowledge. So, he was speaking on a one to one basis about how he truly felt. He wasn't trying to make everyone happy.
    And Marie, I don't think that Bush being against changing the definition of marriage is an act against Gays. The majority of our nation is against changing this definition. Bush is all for civil unions and gays having rights like others. He's just not going to go against his religious beliefs and change the definition of marriage. Civil unions have a long way to go since if a state has one, it's only recognized by that particular state. It doesn't transfer from state to state. As a side note, I'm all for gays being able to marry.
  7. by   parko
    Quote from Soleilpie
    If you don't have the desire to help all people no matter what their orientation or race, then don't pursue the healthcare field.
    agreed
  8. by   Chad_KY_SRNA
    This makes me so angry:angryfire and so sad.
  9. by   Boston1
    Proabortion and prohomosexual groups are incessantly trying to force their beliefs on Catholics and other Christians. Why do they and they're apologists consider it wrong for others to stand up for their own rights of a free conscience? It seems to me the most intolerant groups are the ones that preach the "tolerance virtue" the loudest. I'd like to read more about the legislation and the thoughts of those who favor it. The thoughts of those who oppose it will be well covered in the mainstream media.
  10. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from Boston1
    Proabortion and prohomosexual groups are incessantly trying to force their beliefs on Catholics and other Christians. Why do they and they're apologists consider it wrong for others to stand up for their own rights of a free conscience? It seems to me the most intolerant groups are the ones that preach the "tolerance virtue" the loudest. I'd like to read more about the legislation and the thoughts of those who favor it. The thoughts of those who oppose it will be well covered in the mainstream media.
    Right. Not.
  11. by   CrunchRN
    This is just totally wrong -how can this happen in this day and age? Sad, sad, sad. What can we do?
  12. by   meownsmile
    See this is why i have a problem with religion being a profitable business. Although its supposed to be Non-profit (ya right,,). OK now dont slam me, but most religious based hospitals are completely tax exempt correct (including sales taxes in most places)? Separation of church and state, non-profit, thats all that means anyway. But, they can recieve government grants/medicare payments etc, use our state and local departments to accredit and inspect their facilities, but they dont pay taxes into the system they take out of. Last i knew most everyone that might use one of our tax exempt facilities PAY taxes of one type or another. So as a question, how is it they can refuse treatment to tax paying citizens of whom they are taking money out of their pockets to support their facilities? See the double standard here,, they can take my tax monies,, but can refuse to treat ME? There is something really wrong here. And yes i see the same problem where, religious based colleges, and other "businesses" are concerned too. Dont get me wrong, im not saying they dont do great work and arent needed, but when you talk about this legistlation i think it bears consideration.
  13. by   Boston1
    Every VA hospital takes tax money from taxpayers but refuses treatment to most taxpayers.

    Quote from meownsmile
    See this is why i have a problem with religion being a profitable business. Although its supposed to be Non-profit (ya right,,). OK now dont slam me, but most religious based hospitals are completely tax exempt correct (including sales taxes in most places)? Separation of church and state, non-profit, thats all that means anyway. But, they can recieve government grants/medicare payments etc, use our state and local departments to accredit and inspect their facilities, but they dont pay taxes into the system they take out of. Last i knew most everyone that might use one of our tax exempt facilities PAY taxes of one type or another. So as a question, how is it they can refuse treatment to tax paying citizens of whom they are taking money out of their pockets to support their facilities? See the double standard here,, they can take my tax monies,, but can refuse to treat ME? There is something really wrong here. And yes i see the same problem where, religious based colleges, and other "businesses" are concerned too. Dont get me wrong, im not saying they dont do great work and arent needed, but when you talk about this legistlation i think it bears consideration.

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