Michigan Preparing To Let Doctors Refuse To Treat Gays - page 3

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  1. by   URO-RN
    fftopic: sorry,

    Tweety,

    Your sig quote made me laugh.:chuckle Too funny.
  2. by   irnwoody
    This is a great example of how chat rooms cause rumors to start and how the TWISTED LIBERAL MEDIA MAKE attacks on the sensibilities of the American public.
    The only story here is How this news agency has gotten the uneducated to propogate their slanted story to coinside with their agenda to remove all thinking and freedom of choice from society. I think that's called socialism.

    Nurses have always hyad the right to sign out of proceedures that went against their religious beliefs and this written right is being extended to physicians.

    Now WHO wants to stand up and take away the rights of Pyhsicians?
  3. by   mercyteapot
    Quote from irnwoody
    This is a great example of how chat rooms cause rumors to start and how the TWISTED LIBERAL MEDIA MAKE attacks on the sensibilities of the American public.
    The only story here is How this news agency has gotten the uneducated to propogate their slanted story to coinside with their agenda to remove all thinking and freedom of choice from society. I think that's called socialism.

    Nurses have always hyad the right to sign out of proceedures that went against their religious beliefs and this written right is being extended to physicians.

    Now WHO wants to stand up and take away the rights of Pyhsicians?
    Socialism??? Are you kidding? In a socialistic government, the press would never be given the freedom to propagate the type of bias of which you are accusing them. And btw, welcome to allnurses, brand new poster. You certainly chose a controversial thread to jump into for your first post. And a wordy post it was!
    Last edit by mercyteapot on Mar 29, '05
  4. by   KrisRNwannabe
    I watched several hours of the testimony on this bill and needless to say it was quite interesting. For the record in what I watched, very little mention of treating gays was made. the testimony was mostly about abortions and other procedures that docs or nurses would refuse. I am pretty sure some things were brought up about jehova witnesses and what they will and will not participate in. The biggest arguement brought up was about med schools. I forget who was giving the testimony (sorry but this was way over a year ago) but they were trying to say why should these doctors have to learn procedures that religiously they don't agree with. this went on for a very long time. The replubicans on the board were very harsh towards this person, and really didn't agree with anything they were trying to say. Someone representing the state nursing association was also present. they talked about how nurses could refuse procedures but not refuse to care for the patient. ie refuse to participate in the abortion but take care of the patient afterwards. The head of Beaumont Hospital (one of our majors) also spoke about how this has been implemented with the nurses in the hospital already and they have no problems make accomadations for religous purposes. and he also stated that this is norm in many hospitals in the state. it was very interesting to watch. most people i watched testify were for the bill very few against.
  5. by   jnette
    Quote from Tweety
    Human kind has so distored the true teachings of Jesus. If you read about Jesus, he really didn't care about the "lifestyle" of those he associated with. It's the humans after he died that seem to care so much about such sings. In fact he didn't have much to say about "morality" at all, certainly didn't say one word about sexual lifestyle. But he certainly had a lot of harsh words for the so-called pious religious leaders of the time. Wonder what he would say today?
    "... that seem to care so much about such sings... "

    You sound like my MOTHER !!!
    " dese sings and dose sings and sings like dat !"

    OKay.. back to topic...

    Actually Tweety, He DID care about the morality of humans. Example was when He stepped in and protected Mary Magdalene from being stoned to death for her prostitution. While He did ask that those who have NOT sinned cast the first stone, He also did not imply that her "lifestyle" was acceptable. He told her to go and SIN no more. Remember?

    That said, while it's true that He walked and dined with those of "unsavory" lifestyles.. the "sinners" ..(ALL of us).. it was to show He had understanding and compassion for ALL, and that ALL were to be encompassed and welcomed to hear His message... and that ALL could be changed by His love. Those who heard were touched by His message.. and their lives changed.

    The pious remain in their dark blindness by choice to this day. :stone
    Last edit by jnette on Mar 29, '05
  6. by   OC_An Khe
    Let's see, ther have been numerous articles where pharmacists are refusing to fill prescriptions for birth control pills. Are we going back to the days when BC of any form was illegal. The far right needs to bre prevented for doing this and be voted out of office. Don't have the link but there was an excellent editorial in the NY Times by Krugman today on this topic.
  7. by   Tweety
    Quote from Jo Anne
    fftopic: sorry,

    Tweety,

    Your sig quote made me laugh.:chuckle Too funny.

    Thanks!
  8. by   Tweety
    [QUOTE=jnette
    Actually Tweety, He DID care about the morality of humans......[/QUOTE]

    Thanks for the clarification. Let me refocus to say, Jesus had nothing to say about sexual preference. It was the human writers afterwards, particularly in translations and interpretations 2000 years later, that claim He did. But I refuse to go there any further.
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from irnwoody
    This is a great example of how chat rooms cause rumors to start and how the TWISTED LIBERAL MEDIA MAKE attacks on the sensibilities of the American public.
    The only story here is How this news agency has gotten the uneducated to propogate their slanted story to coinside with their agenda to remove all thinking and freedom of choice from society. I think that's called socialism.

    Nurses have always hyad the right to sign out of proceedures that went against their religious beliefs and this written right is being extended to physicians.

    Now WHO wants to stand up and take away the rights of Pyhsicians?

    Welcome! Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

    I agree things can't get really twisted and jaded in the www, so I take things with a grain of salt.

    I do take exception with your contention that liberal thinkers/media/writers want to take away thinking and freedom from society. I disagree with that idea.
  10. by   jnette
    Quote from Tweety
    Thanks for the clarification. Let me refocus to say, Jesus had nothing to say about sexual preference. It was the human writers afterwards, particularly in translations and interpretations 2000 years later, that claim He did. But I refuse to go there any further.
    Fair enough, Tweets. :kiss
  11. by   mattsmom81
    Anybody else suspect this bill has to do with protecting physicians who have been sued for some type of discrimination...that's the feel I get from it.
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from mattsmom81
    Anybody else suspect this bill has to do with protecting physicians who have been sued for some type of discrimination...that's the feel I get from it.

    I think you might be correct. I suspect the bill goes a little deeper than allowing them to refuse to do an abortion, because that seems too simplistic.
  13. by   BeachNurse
    Not every Republican who voted for Bush agrees with such an outrageous thing. That is absurd!!!!!!!

    I work in an HIV clinic...I guess if we refused to treat gay patients then we would be out of business. Not only that but morally reprehensible as well.

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