Is Racism a Fixture of Nursing Academia?

  1. Check out this activism thread + article posted

    Timely article from Nursing Spectrum
    by Carrie Farella, RN, MA
    Masthead Date June 03, 2002

    School of Hard Knocks
    Is Racism a Fixture of Nursing Academia?

    http://community.nursingspectrum.co...le.cfm?AID=6857
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    http://allnurses.com/forums/showthre...=&pagenumber=1


    Edited 6/18/02 to include article link.
    Last edit by NRSKarenRN on Jun 18, '02
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  2. 109 Comments

  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I visited this post earlier and I will say this again. I choose NOT to get into a debate here over whether racism does or does not exist in nursing. I believe racism, ageism, sexism, exists all over. YES IT DOES where there is a BLACK HEART and and IGNORANT MIND that house such feelings. But I also know there are programs offering "minority" nursing students a way into the program that I did not have access to as a white female. Not complaining, just pointing this out. Let's try to get PAST THIS ALREADY! I AM!
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jun 4, '02
  4. by   live4today
    originally posted by smilingblueyes
    i visited this post earlier and i will say this again. i choose not to get into a debate here over whether racism does or does not exist in nursing. i believe racism, ageism, sexism, exists all over. yes it does where there is a black heart and and ignorant mind that house such feelings. but i also know there are programs offering "minority" nursing students a way into the program that i did not have access to as a white female. not complaining, just pointing this out. let's try to get past this already! i am!
    ditto debbie! i second your motion!
  5. by   LasVegasRN
    Yeah, there is enough pain and suffering going on, let's not get back on this hurtful issue. :stone
  6. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    There are many variables to this subject.

    Here is a shocking revelation!
    Since I have been going back to college(2 schools, 3 years)not one hispanic has even recieved a passing grade on any exam even! I am utterly horified and sickened with white guilt While white and black students even croatian I think, pass through into nursing courses at my school which has been certified "exemplary" by the state board, hispanics are not even passing the exams!

    ............Oh.....uhhm.......Did I mention that neither school has any hispanic enrollment?.............No huh..........Well sorry then, my mistake.......never mind. I guess you can't really build a case for discrimination with no enrollment............No, you really can.

    What about males not enrolling? Is there a variable here? Does the role of hispanic males vs non-hispanic males impact the writers opinnion.

    Don't think they even considered it.


    I think you'll find a culture difference fueling this disparity.
  7. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by LasVegasRN
    Yeah, there is enough pain and suffering going on, let's not get back on this hurtful issue. :stone

    Yes, let's ignore it and bury it deep. That's always the best way.:chuckle
  8. by   LasVegasRN
    What I meant, Sharon, is that it's already a post on the other forum. What SmilingBlueEyes said very well is the whole point. It exists all over and will continue to exist. Don't know if you meant your comment in cynical manner or not, but racism can't ever be buried, no matter how hard society tries. But does it need to be hashed out on this forum? Not for me.
  9. by   Q.
    Racism exists across all cultures and all organizations. I refuse to feel guilty about it because I am not racist. I have been, what I feel, discriminated against as well due to my being white.

    It exists all over and until we teach our kids to NOT practice this, as well as not practicing REVERSE discrimination and affording the SAME opportunities to ALL people, not certain opportunities to certain people, will we ever get past this.

    Just work hard, do your best and be recongized for that. Let's not cushion everyone's fall and let's not ignore those who work hard. It's that simple.
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I agree w/SUSY good post!
  11. by   Rustyhammer
    Being Hispanic AND a nurse let me say that I have never encountered any racism during my carreer.
    Either it hasn't happened or I just don't care to see it and am truly blind to it.
    New Mexico isn't the only state that I have held a license in either.
    PEACE AND LOVE,
    -Russell
  12. by   Anagray
    Sorry to butt in .. I think how people are treated in general also depends on location.
    I live in the capital of NY state , Albany, and on my floor there are all kinds of nurses and all kinds of people.
    I'm taking classes with a very diverse public in school - american black, white, hispanic, mix, my friend is from Trinidad and Tobego and I am from Europe. We often have oral reports, we also have written tests and I must say that everyone is graded based upon their knowelege. Those who don't show up for class fail, no matter what culture they belong to.
    The only thing I can say is that those who have other obligations outside of classroom/work ( such as sick parents, children) experience more difficulties studying/performing than the rest.
  13. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by LasVegasRN
    What I meant, Sharon, is that it's already a post on the other forum. What SmilingBlueEyes said very well is the whole point. It exists all over and will continue to exist.

    Sorry LasVegasRN, but whenever this type of topic comes up there are always a bunch of people who get nervous and defensive and say things like "Let's don't talk about it!" So that is the reason for my comments.

    Don't know if you meant your comment in cynical manner or not, but racism can't ever be buried, no matter how hard society tries. But does it need to be hashed out on this forum? Not for me.

    I did indeed mean my comment in a cynical manner. There is no point in telling people "well yeah, it does exist but let's not talk about it." Does it need to be hashed out in this forum? Well as long as it's in the context of nursing, why not? We discuss EVERYTHING ELSE as it relates to nursing, why not this? If this is someone else's real life experience then why should they not be allowed to express their feelings or their experiences on the matter, one way or another? As long as people are respectful of each other's feelings(apologizing for my earlier sarcasm), then there's no need to get upset. If you or SmilingBlue don't have any comment, then that's cool too. Take Care!
  14. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by SharonMH31
    whenever this type of topic comes up there are always a bunch of people who get nervous and defensive and say things like "Let's don't talk about it!"
    And then there are other people who like to beat a dead horse.

    Perhaps it is because you are new here and haven't been through some of the things that seem to get rehashed every few months. Trust me, we aren't afraid or nervous of these issues, we're just freakin sick of some of them.

    So excuse us for our sarcasm and cynicism. To each their own right? But don't pass on an opportunity to share your experiences here.

    Heather

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