Is Racism a Fixture of Nursing Academia? - page 7

Check out this activism thread + article posted Timely article from Nursing Spectrum by Carrie Farella, RN, MA Masthead Date June 03, 2002 School of Hard Knocks Is Racism a Fixture of... Read More

  1. by   coleen
    I am glad to live in MN where they have an incentive program at our college for hispanic women who would like to be in the nursing field. There is a dire need here and most of our hispanic culture are here originally as migrant farm workers and then become residents so it is difficult for these women to take that big step and enroll and it is also a cultural issue as they are the backbone of the family and many times feel they are needed at home or in the fields. Our Migrant Head Start program offers these women help in choosing careers, scholarships and step by step help in enrolling, learning the language and so on. As a bilingual nurse I am constantly in awe at the perserverence and family values I see in our Hispanic population. We also have a large influx of people of Somalian decent and there are constant seminars and continuing ed lectures for medical professionals on learning about their culture, medical beliefs and even their spiritual beliefs. My daughter is of white, dominican and haitian decent - I know she will make it through college! I am really glad to be in a place where ethnic diversity is supported by the medical community. Actually many of our Dr.'s in the clinic have taken 2-3 month leaves to live with hispanic families in Mexico just to learn the language. It's pretty awesome.
  2. by   JeannieM
    I was "out of touch" for several days and just came back today to find out that my prevous post was poorly written and apparently inspired lots of criticism. I apologize for bringing an old thread to the forefront again, but please let me clarify.
    When I said I was "ashamed of being a white woman", I was having a thoughtful moment in which I was reflecting on times when I, as a white woman, may not have been as vocal or direct in speaking up if I saw prejudice against my peers and patients of another color. I can see now how poorly I expressed myself, but I never intended to say that I was ashamed of my race or those who share the "white" label with me. I only meant myself and some of my past actions.
    The main point I wanted to make was how proud I was of my profession in general for its open-minded attitude, denunciation of racism in all forms, and support of fellow human beings in general. Your criticisms of my post once again made this clear, and I remain proud of my fellow nurses. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my meaning. JeannieM
  3. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by JeannieM
    I was "out of touch" for several days and just came back today to find out that my prevous post was poorly written and apparently inspired lots of criticism. I apologize for bringing an old thread to the forefront again, but please let me clarify.
    When I said I was "ashamed of being a white woman", I was having a thoughtful moment in which I was reflecting on times when I, as a white woman, may not have been as vocal or direct in speaking up if I saw prejudice against my peers and patients of another color. I can see now how poorly I expressed myself, but I never intended to say that I was ashamed of my race or those who share the "white" label with me. I only meant myself and some of my past actions.
    The main point I wanted to make was how proud I was of my profession in general for its open-minded attitude, denunciation of racism in all forms, and support of fellow human beings in general. Your criticisms of my post once again made this clear, and I remain proud of my fellow nurses. Thank you for the opportunity to clarify my meaning. JeannieM

    Very eloquent.
  4. by   KBaldwinLVN
    Why is it that whenever a person of color states the word "Rascism", People (Caucasians mostly) like to duck-and-dodge or minimize its truth by replying "I won't get into that", "Enough hurting going on" or some other bah-humbug comment? Is it that its not known what to say, yet something, ANYTHING must be said no matter how callous, dumb or ackward?

    Racsism is alive and well in America, and it doesn't have boundaries as to where it will thrive. I have found older Caucasian nurses to be some of the most racsist people on this planet. I've worked with EMS personnel who thought my place was as a welfare recipient begging for more. It is real easy to write off the student who started this thread by "Not wanting to get into it", but that doesn't make the pain of raciscm any less hurtful. And whoever posted "I've been a victim of racsism by being white..." Dayum. That proves how ignorant we can be with our attitudes towards racsism.

    Manny - Just let what you encountered be the fuel under your behind to position yourself to be her boss one day. Then fire her, and say "Racsism doesn't exsist here". Better yet become her boss and kill her with kindness. She'll go nuts on her own.

  5. by   KBaldwinLVN
    Originally posted by SharonMH31



    Oh I'm not new here, hon.

    I was trying to put it nicely before but obviously you can't understand that so let's try it again:


    If you are sick of beating a dead horse.....
    If you don't want to make a contribution to the discussion....
    If you're so freakin sick of the issues....


    Then go the freak away. But don't try to tell others what to share and not to share. And as for your sarcasm and cynism...I could care less. Have a nice day.
    I agree...Go away. Isn't there a "Fluffy, Magical and Mystical Fun Stuff" post here somewhere? Might do better there.
  6. by   TCW
    To KBaldwinRN, I don't mean to single you out, but I just needed a little clarification: Are you stating that racism only happens to people of color by white people and that white people cannot be discriminated against?

    I think Spike Lee said years ago that Black people can't be racist because we aren't in a position to deny white people jobs, promotions, housing, etc...Well, maybe Black people can't often be racist in that manner, but believe me I have seen racism come from every single avenue possible. We can all hate if we are taught.

    On a different note if I can be so bold as to "flip the script" a minute--and this is NOT just directed at KBaldwinRN, but to anyone who may find it interesting...I am a Black woman and I have had the experience of not really having to experience much blatant racism from white people (at least not to my face) on the other hand, it was the black kids throughout my schooling who thought I "talked white", "behaved white", wasn't pretty enough...etc. I digress though because this thread is about racism in academia. My point is that ALL OF US CAN HATE. I'm 30 years old and I harbor no ill feelings towards any race. Racism does exist and it sucks and yes, we do need to talk about it, but we need to start by hearing everyone's point of view/experience. I am sorry for sounding so preachy...that is one of the reasons I was reluctant to post sooner.

    T.
  7. by   LasVegasRN
    Originally posted by TCW
    On a different note if I can be so bold as to "flip the script" a minute--and this is NOT just directed at KBaldwinRN, but to anyone who may find it interesting...I am a Black woman and I have had the experience of not really having to experience much blatant racism from white people (at least not to my face) on the other hand, it was the black kids throughout my schooling who thought I "talked white", "behaved white", wasn't pretty enough...etc. I digress though because this thread is about racism in academia. My point is that ALL OF US CAN HATE. I'm 30 years old and I harbor no ill feelings towards any race. Racism does exist and it sucks and yes, we do need to talk about it, but we need to start by hearing everyone's point of view/experience. I am sorry for sounding so preachy...that is one of the reasons I was reluctant to post sooner.

    T.
    Thank you, TCW. Well said. I was hoping this thread was going to stay DEAD. Enough of this already.
  8. by   Love-A-Nurse
    Here I come again at the rear of the discussion.

    The sad thing of racism is when the younger generation keeps the "fire" burning from yester years. How can one expect to "find" a solution from the "older" generation that see me, an Africian American, as NOTHING or will not amount to NOTHING.

    Secondly, when one confess to be a CHRISTIAN and they have hatred toward me and my black brothers and sisters...this I can not understand.

    I must fairly add that NOT all white people are this way, because of personally experiences, but the ones that are, makes it hurt just the same.

    I stand proud, not only a Black woman, but as a woman who knows that I am sombody and a contributor to society.

    I am well with me; are you well with yourself is the question I pose to those who may have issues that leads one to HATE and or those who see not any need to discuss issues to keep "peace"...What is peace when healing has not yet begun?
  9. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by KBaldwinLVN
    I agree...Go away. Isn't there a "Fluffy, Magical and Mystical Fun Stuff" post here somewhere? Might do better there.
    Darling, I do well on any thread here.

    I was posting my opinion, which I have as much of a right to do on any thread here that I choose, or am I wrong?

    Welcome to the boards. I look forward to reading your input on some of the other, fluffier, threads.

    Heather
  10. by   Teshiee
    No matter what I can say someone has been screwed over because of a racist comment here or there. I understand what nation I live in and don't expect this to be kumbaya anytime soon until we just over look this psychotic (sp) behavior. You know the funny thing about it we have racism among our own ethnic groups. Light skinned vs dark. fat vs skinny, rich vs poor trailor park you name it. Perception is one's own reality. I am not looking through rose colored glasses people can be a** holes big time. I guess if I was a dark skinned lesbian who just so happen to live in a trailor park collecting welfare and being atheist I would be hated by most for different reasons huh? Just a thought. STOP THE HATE DON'T PARTICIPATE!!!!!!!!!!!
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    HOW rude you have turned out to be KBaldwin......I see your point and anger here, but INSULTING AND STEREOTYPING puts YOU right down on the level of those you so strongly disdain. If you want to make your point, it can be accomplished in a more articulate and polite manner and what you said about caucasians and to Heather was UN-CALLED FOR, period. ...as that old, old saying goes:

    Ya catch more flies w/honey than vinegar.

    Perhaps it is time you caught onto that. I am sorry for your anger, but I feel it is misdirected HERE. Perhaps you should go back and read ALL THE POSTS here....we are not "against" you....or "typical". Posting in anger almost always makes you misunderstood and can cause unnecessary strife. Good luck to you.:stone
    Last edit by SmilingBluEyes on Jun 18, '02
  12. by   uncRN
    i truly don't see how anyone who is racist could even think of going onto the nursing profession. we care for people no matter what color they are or where they came from non-judgmentaly...if you are unable to do this you should truly look for a new line of work!!! on the unit where i work, all races are represented, caucasian/ black/hispanic/asian/east indian and filipino, and we all get along just fine.... = )
  13. by   Brownms46
    I'm sorry to say that racism is alive and kicking strongly in every part of the country, and in every profession. And the call "don't participate", doesn't wash if everyone isn't playing the same game..
    Last edit by Brownms46 on Jun 18, '02

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