Is Racism a Fixture of Nursing Academia? - page 2

Check out this activism thread + article posted Timely article from Nursing Spectrum by Carrie Farella, RN, MA Masthead Date June 03, 2002 School of Hard Knocks Is Racism a Fixture of... Read More

  1. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER


    And then there are other people who like to beat a dead horse.

    Perhaps it is because you are new here and haven't been through some of the things that seem to get rehashed every few months. Trust me, we aren't afraid or nervous of these issues, we're just freakin sick of some of them.

    So excuse us for our sarcasm and cynicism. To each their own right? But don't pass on an opportunity to share your experiences here.

    Heather

    Oh I'm not new here, hon.

    I was trying to put it nicely before but obviously you can't understand that so let's try it again:


    If you are sick of beating a dead horse.....
    If you don't want to make a contribution to the discussion....
    If you're so freakin sick of the issues....


    Then go the freak away. But don't try to tell others what to share and not to share. And as for your sarcasm and cynism...I could care less. Have a nice day.
  2. by   OBNURSEHEATHER
    Originally posted by SharonMH31
    Oh I'm not new here, hon.

    I was trying to put it nicely before but obviously you can't understand that so let's try it again:

    If you are sick of beating a dead horse.....
    If you don't want to make a contribution to the discussion....
    If you're so freakin sick of the issues....

    Then go the freak away. But don't try to tell others what to share and not to share. And as for your sarcasm and cynism...I could care less. Have a nice day.
    Hmmmm... I tried to put put my point nicely too, but obviously your tactic is to shoot back with childish retorts, so let me try again...

    1. I am not your "hon." OK, babe?

    2. I will not "go the freak away." Because it is just as much my right to post an opinion here as it is yours.

    3. I never tried to tell anyone what to share or not share. In fact, I believe I said that you shouldn't pass on an opportunity to share because of what others think. But do not personally attack the poster because you don't necessarily share his/her beliefs.

    So take care! have a nice day!

    Heather
  3. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by OBNURSEHEATHER


    So take care! have a nice day!

    Heather

    Thank you. I usually do.
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Well that is a lovely end to a thread. But then, this thread was useless from the start, IMO. If one is so concerned about an issue, then go for it. DO SOMETHING rather than pontificate on how "bad it is out there".... interestingly, we had some very valuable feedback and insight FROM AN HISPANIC NURSE that somehow got lost in all the rhetoric.

    And that is all this is.....RHETORIC! IF one feels so IMPASSIONED about it, then one needs to DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT, not just talk. Talk really IS cheap and I agree w/Heather... we are beating a DEAD HORSE here as far as I can see. Good day to all!
  5. by   Q.
    It's only beating a dead horse because we can't solve this problem among us - as we are all adults now and our lives have been molded already based on experiences. As dynamic as humans are, some things just never change.

    Start with your kids, folks. Racism is a personal issue that starts at home. Granted, for a while things will seem like they have never changed, but if your kids grow up to be in positions of power and NOT elect to participate in racism or reverse racism, by not supporting programs/agendas/quotas and rewarding simple hard work and dedication and good citizenry (is that a word) regardless of your ethnicity, well, then, things should be ok. I won't be pissed as a white girl never getting free this or free that, and a black girl shouldn't be pissed because she got straight A's in school but was passed up because she was "destined to be a failure."

    Heather, gotta love ya. BABE.
  6. by   2ndCareerRN



    bob
  7. by   mcruss
    Bob-That is too damned funny!!

    Tricia
  8. by   Furball
    Awwww poor horsey!!

    That toon looked like the nurses in a staff meeting
  9. by   Teshiee
    Racism racism it exists. I don't care for some of us you can do hard work and do the things susy k mentions but there are the powers that be that attempts to demean the minorities. Racism exist in nursing big time it may not be blatant but it is there. I don't scream racism unless it starts to effect my character when I know it is an attack. I do what is best for my patients. I can honestly say that I never had an encounter in NICU regarding my ethnic background I treat everyone nice I don't judge them or talk down to anyone whatever I may feel deep down is kept to myself because I have not walked in anyone one shoes but my own. Racism is not a personal issue it is everyone's issue it is about American as applepie! It needs to be stomped out. I really don't feel people should receive better treatment because of a certain ethnic group but because one group feels they dominate the majority by not allowing other minority groups the same opportunity it becomes a bigger problem. There are no easy answers and I can't answer them but when someone states it in the thread we shouldn't give them a hard time. Because no one really can tell you what an individual has endured in this country alone except the person who has been there! Stop the hate ! Don't participate!
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    GOOD ONE BOB!
  11. by   Q.
    Originally posted by Teshiee
    I don't care for some of us you can do hard work and do the things susy k mentions but there are the powers that be that attempts to demean the minorities.
    That's why we start with our nation's children. Racism is a vicious cycle; as someone who isn't given free education based on my skin color, I could easily turn my hurt/anger outward and start to practice racism. If we teach our children now to NOT pad everyone, then the cycle will stop.

    Racism is not a personal issue it is everyone's issue it is about American as applepie!
    Racism is a personal issue because on a personal level we chose to practice/support it or not. I am not racist; I believe in working hard and being rewarded for doing so. I don't believe in constantly rewarding people for their skin color or ethnicity!

    Stop the cycle now.

    And since I feel like I am now beating that horse Bob threw in there, I am putting the bat down now.
  12. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Once again I find myself agreeing w/susy. RACISM IS A PERSONAL ISSUE that BEGINS AT HOME! If we can teach this generation growing up better, I believe it will turn the tide. It really is simple at that. Why make it harder? Stop the CYCLE...it's like any abuse...the cycle must be ended for things to improve.
  13. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    Racism is undefinable by way of mind reading. Unless someone is wearing a "I hate whitee" t-shirt or is sporting a pointy hood with little eye holes, how would you know if they just didn't like you regardless of race?

    I've been denied housing, recieved poor marks when all the other students got good ones, not been waited on before a person of another race, didn't get offered a job, felt uncomfortable, been part of a minority.....yadda,yadda.

    Unless a person makes an innapropriate remark you can't have the slightest idea what they truly think.

    Racism is perpetuated by those that chose to find it everywhere and those that spread it everywhere they go. Whether you are hurt by it or you hurt someone with it, racism exists because of you.

    Like Teshie says "stop the hate, don't participate"

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