I'm supposed to wear an "Ask me if I washed my hands!" button?! - page 15

Today, administrators launched a handwashing campaign, part of which includes having patient care staff wear giant buttons that say, "Ask me if I washed my hands!" Patients are encouraged to ask... Read More

  1. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from TNRNMAN
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    I think you need to read some of the earlier post and I am not misunderstanding them and you are not misunderstanding me either I meant what I said and it is foolish to think that we ALL wash our hands it is proven over and over again year after year that we ( meaning nursing) do not wash our hands as we should its a fact. I know doctors and others don't patients dont that is irrelevent to us as the nursing profession we are to answer for us. I do disagree with the button idea and would not wear it either, and if you look at studies on this matter we ( nursing ) do not come in over all other healthcare providers in handwashing. So sorry if you did not like my responce but I am all about patient safety and as hard as I try without making excuses it is hard to wash my hands as much as I should, and I fail alot everyday but I try as most do, I just hate it when people make excuses like " Ask me if I have had a break today" or " Why is when change needs to happen it is on the nurses to do it" The thought behind these statements are true but if we use them to excuse not washing our hands then its an excuse and its wrong. That is all I am saying Sorry its my opinion.
    Those weren't meant as excuses for not washing hands.

    1. they are 'tongue in cheek'

    2. the point is - if we are going to wear buttons to have pts query us about unsafe work practices, let's cover the whole gamut of them.

    To a large degree, this discussion isn't even about handwashing at all, but about assinine management 'solutions' that don't really addess the problems.

    If you want to talk about handwashing, that's a different topic.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Oct 8, '05
  2. by   TNRNMAN
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Those weren't meant as excuses for not washing hands.

    1. they are 'tongue in cheek'

    2. the point is - if we are going to wear buttons to have pts query us about unsafe work practices, let's cover the whole gamut of them.

    To a large degree, this discussion isn't even about handwashing at all, but about assinine management 'solutions' that don't really addess the problems.

    If you want to talk about handwashing, that's a different topic.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    I agree they are assinine management solutions, tongue in cheek or not they were used as excuse and we could go in alot of direction with this whole thread and I was making a point on one aspect my view on the flipant comments that are viewed as excuses and thats just my opinion no big deal.
  3. by   lizscott nurse
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Maybe we should try 'Washing to the Oldies'

    'One o'clock, Two o'clock, Three o'clock, WASH
    Four o'clock, five o'clock, six o'clock, WASH
    7 o'clock, 8 o'clock, 9 o'clock, WASH
    we're gonna WASH, WASH around the sink tonight
    we're gonna WASH WASH WASH until the dawn's daylight
    we're WASHING around the sink tonight.'

    I'm sure some consulting firm could pay enough to hire Potsy to do the video.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    What a hoot!!! Potsy is a great choice....Richie is too busy directing films.
  4. by   mstigerlily
    I use the alcohol hand sanitizer for a quickie sometimes instead and save the major handwashing for when I return to the nurses' station since I like to use my own soap (the stuff at work just kills my skin).

    A few months back I had a patient's mother sniff me suspiciously and say, "I smell alcohol. Have you been drinking?" The patient and I both smiled and educated grandma on the alcohol sanitizer, she was a little embarrassed but I'm really glad she asked instead of reporting me for smelling like alcohol!

    Melissa

    Quote from grannynurse FNP student
    The standard is you wash your hands before entering a room, after emptying a foley, after changing a dressing, after handling a patient, and upon leaving the patient's room. I am not surprised by what you saw during your mother's hospitalization. I have been hospitalized in New York, Tennesse, and Florida and have seen the same. I speak up and ask the individual to wash his or her hands. It makes me unpopular, with some of the staff but I am not there to win a popularty contest. I also ask any physician to wash his or her hands. I am not there to pick up a nosocomiall infection. If it's wet, wear gloves!


    Grannynurse
  5. by   opalmRN
    Quote from grannynurse FNP student
    I am not there to pick up a nosocomiall infection. Grannynurse
    This is good, I need to remember this line!
    Thanks

    Opal
  6. by   grannynurse FNP student
    Quote from mstigerlily
    I use the alcohol hand sanitizer for a quickie sometimes instead and save the major handwashing for when I return to the nurses' station since I like to use my own soap (the stuff at work just kills my skin).

    A few months back I had a patient's mother sniff me suspiciously and say, "I smell alcohol. Have you been drinking?" The patient and I both smiled and educated grandma on the alcohol sanitizer, she was a little embarrassed but I'm really glad she asked instead of reporting me for smelling like alcohol!

    Melissa
    I rarely use the alcohol hand sanitizers they dry my hands out too much. But I am glad that you stop and use them. Keep up the good habit.

    Grannynurse
  7. by   ChevRN
    That button is silly, and seems belittling. I would object to wearing it. It reminds me of the button the waitress/waiter at Denny's wears stating something like if I don't suggest juice, it's free. Or Toys R Us if I don't suggest buying batteries tell the manager.
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    In other words, the button might as well said "if i'm not doing my job, please run me over with a bus."
  9. by   UM Review RN
    Quote from sheilagh
    You are absolutely correct, I would love to swab and culture the docs hands!!!

    The winners get to wear the buttons, right?
  10. by   Hellllllo Nurse
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    There is a distinct difference between being armed w/ tools and beset w/ requirements.

    I don't think it's demeaning to be armed w/ tools. I DO think it's demeaning for some suit to tell me how I MUST to do my job. If they so distrust me to do my job, well then maybe they should shed their suits and do the job themselves.

    See this is the crux of the matter. A professional is autonomous within their professional sphere. A worker is not.

    Are we professionals or laborers?

    Many posters have said that these tactics are demeaning, including me. THE REASON WHY THESE TACTICS ARE DEMEANING IS BECAUSE THEY INFRINGE UPON, OR QUESTION OUR PROFESSIONALISM.

    Think about that for a second.

    Are YOU a professional, or a laborer? If you said professional, shouldn't you demand to be treated as such?

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    EXACTLY. That's precisely what this debate is about; not whether or not we're washing our hands- it's really about are we professionals, and if so, why are we allowing mgmt to treat us this way?

    Do you think anyone would tell doctors or lawyers to wear some kind of "ask me" button?

    HELL no.
  11. by   rn in 3 years
    Quote from cre8tivRN
    I would not wear the button either!
    Our institute.........I can just see the button thing happening here...it would be just my luck!
    At our facility, the 8 year old daughter of the infection control nurse made up a poster of 8 hands with hole punches of different colors on them, with the caption "for every minute you spend in a patients room, your hands contract 16 bacteria, wash your hands!"
    They have plastered these stupid posters everywhere. I cant stand it!
    It's like saying...............uh, duh! :smackingf
    I'm just a student but I kind of like the poster idea. Sometimes people have to be "reminded" of proper hand washing techniques and the reasons why.

    Where I work now my boss does not wash his hands after going to the restroom, even after a BM (it's a very small office and I would be able to hear the water running). That just grosses me out to no end. I will not touch the bathroom hadle or the light switch with my bare hand because of this One time, he was sitting at my desk using my computer and sneezed (a rather wet one too!) on his hand and then proceded to put that same hand on my computer mouse Needless to say I came in the next morning with a can of Lysol!
  12. by   MT Student Nurse
    :angryfire I cannot believe that administrations are trying to implement such things. It is a horrible idea to make professional highly trained nurses where buttons, like the wait staff at the local TGI Fridays. Thanks for sharing.
  13. by   dthfytr
    Dumbest PR idea I've ever heard of.
    If I was forced to wear it I'd add "ask me how many other jobs I'm applying for too."

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