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If we had a conservative nurses forum - page 8

Would anyone post in it? :clown: I looked forward to being a nurse for so long....my second thoughts aren't because of nurses eating their own (I have never seen that!) or hours or mean docs... Read More

  1. Visit  Mijourney profile page
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    Nurses, of all health care providers, need to provide care independent of their political beliefs even though health and medical care is impacted by politics. Having wrote that, should we also consider forums based on religion? There are many nurses who consider themselves so-called conservatives. In fact, the majority of nurses I have worked with in my career have considered themselves conservative. Having a conservative, liberal, Christian, non-Christian forum, in my opinion, would just show how extreme many of us are in our beliefs and is really irrelevant in the grand scheme of patient care. The question I would ask those who are running this website is whether having political and religious forums undermine the mission, values, and goals of allnurses.
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  2. Visit  jmqphd profile page
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    If we are non-partisan and independent, why are our professional organizations so far to the left? (This is not a new thing.) Why were they totally in the tank for ObamaCare? Look at the catalogues of graduate nursing programs and count the number of required credit hours students must spend soaking in progressive marinade. (Nursing and Global Justice. Nursing as a Social Force.) It's all such a kabuki dance.

    You can tell conservative nurses that the movers and shakers in nursing are independent and critical thinkers till you're blue (pun intended) in the face. But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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  3. Visit  dance4life profile page
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    Yes, we should have one so people like me who can't find a job will be called this like I did today by a conservative,

    "In other words & I mean this with all due respect - take a long walk off a short peer you little worthless creep."

    The love! :redpinkhe

    I am so done with nursing. This is a Baby Boomer and this is my last post. I would rather be homeless then take care of someone who thinks this way. Even though I try to stay neutral. I have tried everything in my power to get a job. It is time for me to do something else. This is the reason why I cannot find one. I want to help people and people do not deserve my assistance.
    Last edit by dance4life on Jul 25, '11
  4. Visit  nybelle profile page
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    Level 1 trauma nursing made me a very young conservative. . . during the Clinton Era!!
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  5. Visit  cbocian profile page
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    I am and grateful there are others.
  6. Visit  GitanoRN profile page
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    evidently, i keep a motto while at work and otherwise never to discuss my political views, religion, gender preferences, not even my sport fan views....needless to say this has kept me out of trouble and as a seasoned nurse i enjoy the best of both worlds...
  7. Visit  Tragically Hip profile page
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    "Social psychologist Jonathan Haidt theorizes that a person's position on the political spectrum is a reflection of his or her moral matrix. We're all guided by the same moral foundations he posits, but we weigh them differently. Liberals value compassion, or care, over all else, while conservatives assign equal weight to values including care, liberty, fairness, loyalty, authority and sanctity. It's not that liberals don't believe in the others, but when faced with a moral dilemma, care (or avoidance of harm) trumps everything else."

    Now, into which group do you think nurses tend to fall? Compassion and care over all else, maybe?
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  8. Visit  smithkidsmom profile page
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    Wow, OP...I'm replying to your original post.
    It's quite the opposite where I live, in Tennessee. Seems like everyone here is on the conservative/evangelical Christian bandwagon. I'm not, and I'm definitely in the minority. It really gets old. Before you label me as a liberal, know that I don't consider myself one. I have some conservative values, some liberal, and some that don't really fit in either. I guess what I'm saying is that I have some non-traditional beliefs, and I feel extremely outnumbered--almost akin to someone hiding their sexuality in the closet, so to speak (no, don't go there...LOL...I'm married to my high school sweetheart, and we have two kids).
    I grew up here too--not a transplant. If I were to "come out" as an agnostic, for example, a lot of people wouldn't have anything to do with me anymore. It would upset my grandmother and probably put her on her deathbed. A lot of people would be certain this earned me a one way ticket to a really hot place. So I shut up, have my non-traditional beliefs, and be the minority.
    Mainly though, no matter what our personal/political beliefs, they should never affect patient care in a negative way. If anything, I think when we throw politics and religion out the window, and concentrate on the issue at hand--the patient--nursing will become a better profession!
  9. Visit  sealford profile page
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    Well, I'm a libertarian, but my values tend to be more on the conservative side. I did find out that most of my future nursing professors are Republicans, but a few have already left because of Obamacare.
  10. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    It seems to me that it's hypocritical for a libertarian to be going into nursing - or medicine - since both are professions in which a government issued license attempts to assure quality of care and the safety of the public - something libertarians believe the government ought not to be involved in. A libertarian who is true to their beliefs wouldn't participate in such a system. Just a little gentle poke here.

    Quote from sealford
    Well, I'm a libertarian, but my values tend to be more on the conservative side. I did find out that most of my future nursing professors are Republicans,
    but a few have already left because of Obamacare.
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  11. Visit  sealford profile page
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    If we were 100% true to all that we believed in, mankind would have been wiped out long ago because of all of the disagreements and extremism. All libertarians that I know believe that we should have some form of government...otherwise we would be anarchists. A government-issued license is necessary to ensure that a person can properly care for someone else. I have several libertarian friends who are also nurses and doctors (and they actually care about their patients). Just because I'm a libertarian doesn't mean that I can't be a nurse. Maybe the best way to fight against something is to be on the inside of it.
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  12. Visit  33762FL profile page
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    I was against the past decade's wars, against a regressive tax system, strongly in favor the right to family planning, pro-LGBT rights, pro-personal responsibility, anti organized religion in public schools, and pro-union rights. In France that would make me a conservative, in the US it makes me a Democrat.
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  13. Visit  Chico David RN profile page
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    I'm well aware that libertarians favor some form of government, but all the libertarian writings I've read claim the government ought not be in the business of regulating things to ensure public health and safety. They would claim that it's your job, not the government's, to make sure that the person taking care of you is safe and competent and the only safety mechanism you need is the right to sue a practioner if they actually harm you, or a company that sells you a defective product that injures you. All of that is standard libertarian doctrine. According to libertarian principles, a government mechanism to license health care practitioners is just a way for those practioners to keep others out of the field and artificially inflate the value of their work. Again, I don't believe any of this silliness, but it's what libertarians claim to believe taken to its logical conclusion: that anyone who wants to call themselves a doctor or a nurse ought to be able to do so and that it's up to the patient do judge if they are competent or not. In reality of course, like most other people, the libertarian claim to favor personal freedom is highly situational and tends in practice to mean favoring freedom for people you approve of to do things you approve of.
    Quote from sealford
    If we were 100% true to all that we believed in, mankind would have been wiped out long ago because of all of the disagreements and extremism. All libertarians that I know believe that we should have some form of government...otherwise we would be anarchists. A government-issued license is necessary to ensure that a person can properly care for someone else. I have several libertarian friends who are also nurses and doctors (and they actually care about their patients). Just because I'm a libertarian doesn't mean that I can't be a nurse. Maybe the best way to fight against something is to be on the inside of it.
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