Seems part of the arguement against Obama's bill is that people are going to be forced to purchase health insurance. Well........why not? A lot of states mandate buying auto insurance. Which one is more important? Doesn't seem like too much of a stretch to say you have to have it. Might help put an end to medical businesses having to give it away free.
So soon we forget. Many threads and even more posts comment about the "free care" we must provide in the ER and everywhere else. Seems to me this would be a step in the right direction to solve it. Whats the issue?
Eh, I'm all for it. Tired of running pain meds to a bunch of fakes who don't pay only to see another pt. with a real ailment get second rate care.
Feb 1, '11
I'm not sure about the whole health care debate, but I think stopping the forced purchase of insurance brings the whole bill down. It's like removing a support wall in a building. It may not immediately bring down the house, but it will weaken it and eventually make the house unusable.
Also, if I don't want to pay for car insurance, I just don't buy a car. I do have a choice. So technically car insurance and health insurance are not similar.
We could stop the abuse of ERs and drug seeking behaviors. Just stop dispensing the meds. Just that simple. We don't need an overhaul for that.
Last edit by imintrouble on Feb 1, '11
Feb 1, '11
I suppose in Aust we are in a similar position. Here we can go to any public hospital at anytime for free care with a medicare or health care card (from SS). But we are bombarded with ads to purchase health insurance, especially hospital insurance (most people like me only have extras cover, like dental, physio, etc). There are long waiting lists at public hospitals. Some EDs/ERs the doctors will refuse to see you in Western Australia if there is a 24 hour - or even a doctor's surgery - open; you must attend them first. The doctors or NP can make the decision to refuse care initially, which I personally think is a dangerous policy in some instances.
We get taxed a LOT in Aust to provide good health care for those who CHOOSE to lie around on SS, make up fake illnesses (bad backs are the most common), who get public housing, who refuse any jobs (they don't seem to be made to take any job that comes along), and who rort the system for years.
Our wonderful gov't has just told all the to-be Mums, and teenagers who want a stable income and who don't want to work or go to university (too hard doing that!) - that women can get pregnant, whenever, wherever and they get 18 weeks paid maternity leave. As far as I'm aware, there are no restrictions. This makes my blood boil, and I certainly do not think it is a good message for young women, or for people who want to get off SS - they get money for being pg and having a baby WAAY to young. Why should I pay for some 15 year old to get pg, sit around on her backside whining for 9 months, then have to pay again for her to - supposedly - look after the baby. I did not choose to get pg, and having anbd paying for a baby, is the mother's/parent's of the baby's responsbility, not mine or the govt's.
So I do agree that I as a taxpayer, is taxed too much for all this BS. And that these SS bludgers should be made to take more responsibility for their life, health and the way they abuse the system.
More strict rules need to be enforced to help those who just use and abuse the system. Many doctors I've worked with agree with refusing treatment, under certain conditions, for non-urgent, non-compliant, frequent flyers presenting to the ED/ER.
Last edit by carolmaccas66 on Feb 1, '11