HEY GOP: Attacking Hillary Isn't a Health Plan - page 8

when even a magazine called "the american conservative" counsels] the republican presidential candidates that they can't live on hillary-hate alone, something is happening. as nurses fighting for... Read More

  1. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from nservice
    When I worked as a home health nurse, I saw horrible poverty every day. Most households consisted of multiple families living in a small cramped house. At anytime of the day and night there were usually at least 5 adults in the home. These adults were usually all stricken by some kind of disability. Many times they would discuss the different pain medications that they were on and offer to trade...they were truly caring people. Their disability must have been severe because they couldn't even clean their house or wash their many children. Having a car was almost never seen, however there was always beer and cigarettes in the home. Thankfully these families had many visitors to cheer them up. usually about 5 or 6 visitors in my hour long visit. They never came inside, though. One of the disabled adults always went out on the porch to "visit". It saddened me to see the cubbards bare, but at least they had wide screen TV's, Cable, Computers, and cell phones to take their mind off of the hunger.

    There is no "poverty" that couldn't be prevented by better life choices. But why would anyone give up their "poverty" and go to a job every day. They have everything they need and want and it's all free. It sickens me, quite frankly.
    Not everyone who needs SSDI or SSI is a deadbeat, those who are a bit too judgemental are tempting fate to teach them humility and compassion.
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on Nov 7, '07
  2. by   FireStarterRN
    Quote from ingelein
    Not everyone who needs SSDI or SSI is a deadbeat, those who are a bit too judgemental are tempting fate to teach them humility and compassion.
    :yeahthat:
  3. by   CRNA2007
    You can buy policies that cover cancer as well as long term disability insurance, I have long term disability through a private company of course I pay for it myself.


    Quote from Emmanuel Goldstein
    I have insurance through my employer, like most of us who are insured. But in the back of my mind (especially since my CA diagnosis) is the thought that if I suffer a catastrophic illness or injury, I won't be able to work and will be screwed. As an oncology nurse, I've seen this happen far too often. People lose everything. But hey, let's throw the baby out with the bathwater. Wouldn't want to risk those danged illegals gaining access to our healthcare!
  4. by   CRNA2007
    No one is talking about no Democrats being in the military as usual so much reading into every statement and not looking at the actual statements I was responding. What blatant hateful comments???? Are you not being judgemental??? You don't kow my circumstances in life or how hard I have to work to get where I am. I have a great life right now because I worked hard in life to get where I am. No one ever gave me any handouts I earned everything I have and I don't think it's too much to ask some of those in the wagon to get out and help the rest of us pull it.




    Quote from ingelein
    I just came upon your post today,otherwise I wouldve responded earlier. I am a liberal, I am a nurse with almost 30 years in the field, I worked damn hard to put 4 children through private school and college,and one through law school.My husband left our family after 19 years of marriage.I became chronically ill, could no longer work,could not afford COBRA, lost my home , car and life savings to medical debt.I DO NOT get Medicaid in my state of WI, I have applied for SSDI, but this takes sometimes up to 3 years in some states to be approved. My four children who are now succesful adults, thanks to my many years of HARD work,and student loans and GRANTS, now support me financially, until SSDI is approved.

    Your statement about no democrats in the military is amazing.My daughter is in the Navy and is now and ALWAYS has been a liberal democrat as are ALL of my children.We are trying to figure out how I can become her dependant so I can get some of the medical care I desperatly need. The free clinic cannot provide this type of care due to cost constraints. Your blatent , hateful comments about how easy it is to just change jobs, lazy people needing help, etc, etc. makes me just shake my head. I wonder just what your bedside manner must be when you take care of someone who you consider unworthy. It is funny how life has a way of teaching some folks, who are a bit too smug, humility.Its a huge mistake to think that you are immune to unexpected "stuff", that you are so well prepared, for ANY eventuality. Have a good life, hopefully.......
  5. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from CRNA2007
    You can buy policies that cover cancer as well as long term disability insurance, I have long term disability through a private company of course I pay for it myself.
    Yes, lets all TRUST those for profit health insurance companies, they too are so well known and loved for their compassion and fair treatment.
  6. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from CRNA2007
    No one is talking about no Democrats being in the military as usual so much reading into every statement and not looking at the actual statements I was responding. What blatant hateful comments???? Are you not being judgemental??? You don't kow my circumstances in life or how hard I have to work to get where I am. I have a great life right now because I worked hard in life to get where I am. No one ever gave me any handouts I earned everything I have and I don't think it's too much to ask some of those in the wagon to get out and help the rest of us pull it.
    Ive pulled that wagon for over thirty years, sometimes the wagon tips over and breaks and can no longer be pulled, and ALL the good planning for any eventuality cannot face up to what LIFE sometimes has in store for even the HARDEST most deserving of workers.
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on Nov 7, '07
  7. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from ingelein

    Your statement about no democrats in the military is amazing.My daughter is in the Navy and is now and ALWAYS has been a liberal democrat as are ALL of my children.We are trying to figure out how I can become her dependant so I can get some of the medical care I desperatly need. The free clinic cannot provide this type of care due to cost constraints. Your blatent , hateful comments about how easy it is to just change jobs, lazy people needing help, etc, etc. makes me just shake my head. I wonder just what your bedside manner must be when you take care of someone who you consider unworthy. It is funny how life has a way of teaching some folks, who are a bit too smug, humility.Its a huge mistake to think that you are immune to unexpected "stuff", that you are so well prepared, for ANY eventuality. Have a good life, hopefully.......
    As a proud Navy Veteran I can be counted as a proud liberal. One of the reasons that I am such a strong believer in single payer is my experience as to how well Tricare functions in providing health care to service members and dependents. If we can design a high performing system for the military, VA and federal employees than we can design a system to bring the un and underinsured into the system.

    Denigrating the poor and working poor does little to address the root causes of poverty. Denigration of the poor reflects very poorly on the incorporation of core nursing values into the psyche and behaviors associated with professional practice.
  8. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from CRNA2007
    No one is talking about no Democrats being in the military as usual so much reading into every statement and not looking at the actual statements I was responding. What blatant hateful comments???? Are you not being judgemental??? You don't kow my circumstances in life or how hard I have to work to get where I am. I have a great life right now because I worked hard in life to get where I am. No one ever gave me any handouts I earned everything I have and I don't think it's too much to ask some of those in the wagon to get out and help the rest of us pull it.
    No handouts?

    You received help from taxpayers from the moment you were born.

    Someone paid taxes to build the roads, build and staff the public schools, paid insurance premiums to help defer the cost of your birth and spread the cost across a larger group, paid taxes to build and staff the hospital, if you used Montgomery GI Bill for school taxpayers paid the matching share to your contributions, taxpayers subsidize the cost of college to reduce the tuition you paid, taxpayers subsidize the cost of your student loans, if you ever collected a grant that is a gift, Perkins nursing loans are essentially gifts.....Your service in the military is appreciated but the myth of the self made man in America is just that a myth. The economic, social and cultural environment established by taxpayers working together through government is what leads to individuals achieving success through their efforts within that environment.
    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Nov 7, '07
  9. by   HM2VikingRN
    Quote from ingelein
    Not everyone who needs SSDI or SSI is a deadbeat, those who are a bit too judgemental are tempting fate to teach them humility and compassion.
    Great statement it is in my signature line for the time being........
  10. by   FireStarterRN
    Quote from HM2Viking
    No handouts?

    You received help from taxpayers from the moment you were born.

    Someone paid taxes to build the roads, build and staff the public schools, paid insurance premiums to help defer the cost of your birth and spread the cost across a larger group, paid taxes to build and staff the hospital, if you used Montgomery GI Bill for school taxpayers paid the matching share to your contributions, taxpayers subsidize the cost of college to reduce the tuition you paid, taxpayers subsidize the cost of your student loans, if you ever collected a grant that is a gift, Perkins nursing loans are essentially gifts.....Your service in the military is appreciated but the myth of the self made man in America is just that a myth. The economic, social and cultural environment established by taxpayers working together through government is what leads to individuals achieving success through their efforts within that environment.

    Preach it Sister Viking!!! :yeahthat:
  11. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from jlsRN
    Preach it Sister Viking!!! :yeahthat:
    Uh oh . . .I'm in trouble . . . all this time I've thought Viking was male, not female.

    Sorry.

    steph
  12. by   FireStarterRN
    Quote from stevielynn
    Uh oh . . .I'm in trouble . . . all this time I've thought Viking was male, not female.

    Sorry.

    steph
    OH, I'm not certain about that, I just assumed, I have no concrete knowledge...

    Viking?
  13. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from jlsRN
    OH, I'm not certain about that, I just assumed, I have no concrete knowledge...

    Viking?
    "Sister" Viking is a Brother Viking.Preach it Brother Viking!!
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on Nov 7, '07

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