Healthcare is NOT a basic human right.

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  1. This is a discussion on Healthcare is NOT a basic human right. in Nursing Activism / Healthcare Politics, part of General Nursing ... If one were to read the Constitution one would realize that the Constitution does not grant anyone...

    If one were to read the Constitution one would realize that the Constitution does not grant anyone freedoms, liberties, or rights. The Constitution only protects freedoms, liberties, and rights from transgressions on part of the government. A right is something that is inherent to the individual, comes from that individual, and is maintained by the individual. You are born with such rights like the right to speak freely, the only thing that can be done to that right is to have it infringed. No one can grant a right to another, only limit or impede the exercise of that right.

    Healthcare is a human invention that does not exist in the natural environment. Only through the work of others and through the taking of resources from one party and giving to another does healthcare exist. You cannot force someone to give effort and resources to another and call that a right. In the absence of human intervention the individual would live their lives and succumb to the natural forces which would act upon their bodies.

    Do I think we should provide preventative care and basic primary care? Sure. Do I think that we can? Maybe. Do I think that healthcare is a basic human right? Absolutely not.
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  3. The Constitution also used to allow slavery and limited voting rights, so I'd hardly consider it the authority on human rights.
    MandaRN94, lemmyg, NJForte, and 72 others like this.
  4. Quote from hiddencatRN
    The Constitution also used to allow slavery and limited voting rights, so I'd hardly consider it the authority on human rights.
    You are correct in that the Constitution is not an authority on human rights. The Constitution was designed to protect certain rights from infringements from the federal government, but not necessarily give any rights. Unfortunately not everything was given protection. The Constitution is often cited as a justification for healthcare, that is why I addressed it.

    BTW, both slavery and voting was deemed to be left to the states to decide upon, unfortunately they chose poorly.
  5. Look. Basic human rights are whatever we want them to be.

    Religion is whatever you want it to be or not.

    None of the above things existed until someone decided to make them what they wanted them to be.

    So I think it's all about that.
    rural_nurse, FocusRN, Merced, and 18 others like this.
  6. If we never changed anything in the Constitution I'd still only be three-fifths of a person.
    MandaRN94, chwcbesteph, NJForte, and 61 others like this.
  7. there arent any inherit rights. all rights humans have were assigned by others in power
    NJForte, FocusRN, nurse.lisa1968, and 12 others like this.
  8. Quote from anotherone
    there arent any inherit rights. all rights humans have were assigned by others in power
    Does a human who does not live under a power have all the rights he was born with? If born on an island by yourself, do you not have the right to do whatever you want?

    Rights are things you are born with, that are inherent to the human condition.
    CountyRat, nurse.lisa1968, toekneejo, and 1 other like this.
  9. Quote from squatmunkie_RN
    If we never changed anything in the Constitution I'd still only be three-fifths of a person.
    Where does the Constitution say this?
    toekneejo and roughmatch like this.
  10. Quote from netglow
    Look. Basic human rights are whatever we want them to be.

    Religion is whatever you want it to be or not.

    None of the above things existed until someone decided to make them what they wanted them to be.

    So I think it's all about that.
    Can you define a human right? What is a human right?
  11. Quote from Asystole RN
    Where does the Constitution say this?
    Three-Fifths Compromise - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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