Forced ultrasounds - page 4

by nurse2033

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Has anyone been following this? Virginia just passed a law that requires any woman who wishes an abortion must have an ultrasound (and pay for it) prior to the abortion. Since most of these are done prior to 12 weeks that means... Read More


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    Thanks for all the comments. I guess what bothers me the most is that the procedures are being legislated not for medical reasons. I have no problem if the standard of medical care is X,Y, and Z. But I think that should be up to physicians not legislators. And just to add, the informed consent part of the law (which would allow a woman to opt out) was defeated.
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    The medical reason for an ultrasound before an abortion is to determine gestational age. However, an abdominal ultrasound is perfectly adequate to determine gestation age, a trans-vaginal is not necessary. Also, doctors should decide how to practice, not the government. The purpose of this bill is red-meat for the far right.
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    Quote from nurse2033
    Thanks for all the comments. I guess what bothers me the most is that the procedures are being legislated not for medical reasons. I have no problem if the standard of medical care is X,Y, and Z. But I think that should be up to physicians not legislators. And just to add, the informed consent part of the law (which would allow a woman to opt out) was defeated.

    I agree medical care should be up to the physicians not the government and the legislation is being pushed by antiabortion lobbyists. However, I am confused, when you say that the informed consent part has been defeated, where on the document do you see this? Also, where on the document does it say that a trans-vaginal ultrasound is to be done?
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    Here's a link:

    http://www.canada.com/news/abortion+akin+rape/6187320/story.html

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    he ultrasound must be by vaginal probe, not a pelvic ultrasound, as per the law. The vaginal probe ultrasound would be mandatory before an abortion - meaning that if the patient doesn't consent to the vaginal probe, they can't get an abortion in Virginia.
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    And then to expect these women to pay for the ultrasound as well - if they want it done so badly, the least they can do is to pay for it themselves!
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    here was I thinking conservatives didn't like government intrusion into our lives , but I guess that only means when the government is trying to limit a right they hold dear .Silly me .
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    Conscious Sedation is relatively easy, cheap and safe with properly trained personnel. We often do it at the bedside for PTs getting a bone marrow biopsy or for LPs.

    I believe for my niece's wisdom teeth removal it cost all of $100, while local would have been $40. Either way, it was cheaper than a transvag US.
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    I was 7w5d from my LPM when I had an abortion. An ABD u/s was used, and the technician had zero problems with finding and examining the pregnancy before the physician came in to view it as well.

    The provider I used offered abortions at 4+ weeks, or as early as a pregnancy can be visualized via u/s technology. At such early gestations a trans vag u/s is necessary, but again, we should leave these decisions to the health care professionals.
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    These wingnuts in Virginia must have sorted out the local economy, poverty, and crime to be infiltrating on Women's Rights. Simply put, "My Body, My Right"
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    Quote from nurse2033
    Has anyone been following this? Virginia just passed a law that requires any woman who wishes an abortion must have an ultrasound (and pay for it) prior to the abortion. Since most of these are done prior to 12 weeks that means the ultrasound will most likely be vaginal. Does any one else have a problem with this? I know that the abortion would also be vaginal but this is an unnecessary procedure. What is the medical purpose here? Obviously none. Here's a few links covering the story. I was disappointed I couldn't find any public comments from nursing organizations.

    The abortion clinic, then should do this prior to the procedure.


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