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Has anyone been following this? Virginia just passed a law that requires any woman who wishes an abortion must have an ultrasound (and pay for it) prior to the abortion. Since most of these are done... Read More

  1. Visit  Hay Nars, RN profile page
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    Quote from nurse2033
    Has anyone been following this? Virginia just passed a law that requires any woman who wishes an abortion must have an ultrasound (and pay for it) prior to the abortion. Since most of these are done prior to 12 weeks that means the ultrasound will most likely be vaginal. Does any one else have a problem with this? I know that the abortion would also be vaginal but this is an unnecessary procedure. What is the medical purpose here? Obviously none. Here's a few links covering the story. I was disappointed I couldn't find any public comments from nursing organizations.

    The abortion clinic, then should do this prior to the procedure.
  2. Visit  morte profile page
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    What would the medical reason be for doing this? It appears to me to basically be a variation on a "poll tax".
    Quote from Hay Nars, RN
    The abortion clinic, then should do this prior to the procedure.
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  3. Visit  dzadzey profile page
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    This is just another case of the religious right trying to give their narrow, absolutists and distorted interpretation of religious dogma the full weight and force of law.They fail to appreciate the irony, let alone the hypocrisy then, of claiming their religious freedoms are being infringed upon by rules giving women the same access to contraception men have to medication for erectile dysfunction. Perhaps men, especially politicians trying to restrict women's access to contraception and safe...legal abortion, should undergo a cystoscopy before getting their prescription. And yes, I'm a man.
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  4. Visit  Hay Nars, RN profile page
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    To determine gestational age because if it's past a certain amount of time it's illegal to perform an elective abortion.
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  5. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from Hay Nars, RN
    To determine gestational age because if it's past a certain amount of time it's illegal to perform an elective abortion.
    I demand a law requiring a testicular ultrasound before a vasectomy!

    Hell, just give me the ultrasound...
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  6. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from 33762FL
    Here's a link:

    http://www.canada.com/news/abortion+akin+rape/6187320/story.html

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    he ultrasound must be by vaginal probe, not a pelvic ultrasound, as per the law. The vaginal probe ultrasound would be mandatory before an abortion - meaning that if the patient doesn't consent to the vaginal probe, they can't get an abortion in Virginia.
    Some of those morons in VA are now claiming they "Didn't know" what a transvaginal ultrasound was. However, during the discussions of the bill, a Democratic member of the legislature, who is an MD, explained it fully.
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  7. Visit  dishes profile page
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    Quote from MN-Nurse
    Some of those morons in VA are now claiming they "Didn't know" what a transvaginal ultrasound was. However, during the discussions of the bill, a Democratic member of the legislature, who is an MD, explained it fully.
    Maybe the VA politicians should be required to have a trans-rectal ultrasound prior to voting on the legislation.
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  8. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from dishes
    Maybe the VA politicians should be required to have a trans-rectal ultrasound prior to voting on the legislation.
    To them it would be a brain scan.
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  9. Visit  nicurn001 profile page
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    I always thought we used the least invasive intervention in all procedures , so it is perfectly legitimate to assess the gestational age of the fetus , but by mandating by law the transvaginal US , listening to the fetal heartbeat etc. is bordering upon rape and torture .
    To force anyone for any reason to undergo an unnecessary procedure is NOT good healthcare ! .
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  10. Visit  VioletKaliLPN profile page
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    to determine gestational age because if it's past a certain amount of time it's illegal to perform an elective abortion.

    this is currently considered standard procedure prior to an abortion. all women have an u/s prior to an abortion. what they do not get is a play by play ultrasound with added info, such as heart beat.

    an u/s has to be done, otherwise they would not know gestation, or whether or not it was abnormal or ectopic.

    they want a "play by play" ultrasound performed, which is typically given to women who are carrying a wanted pregnancy and care about the details.
  11. Visit  brainkandy87 profile page
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    Ah, the religious right, how I love thee. Seeing as how they deny so many basic and widely accepted scientific theories, I'm surprised they even consider ultrasound a real scientific tool and not some ominous tool of the devil.

    But seriously, it baffles me how ridiculous things are getting with women's reproductive rights. Forcing a transvaginal US onto a woman for electing to have a legal procedure? Makes total sense.
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  12. Visit  jadelpn profile page
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    WOMEN. IN. THIS. COUNTRY. HAVE. THE. RIGHT. TO. CHOOSE.
    Should ultrasound be required, then do the ultrasound, it doesn't necessarily need to be trans-vaginal, 3-D, and complete with surround sound. As medical professionals who need to keep out own personal feeling aside, why try to "convince" a woman that she should not go through with an abortion should she have made what it probably a difficult choice already? This whole "hear the heartbeat" and "see the image" is psychological warfare on women. Informed consent is saying "you are such and so weeks along, are you sure of this decision, this procedure could cause bleeding, infection etc etc......."
    If the religious right in this country want to "save the souls" of those who make this choice, then pray for them, have Mass for them, whatever, but it is hard enough for a woman to get through the line of protesters outside of a clinic, nevermind a blow by blow, play by play description of an ultrasound, complete with volume.
  13. Visit  dzadzey profile page
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    These issues are not about "protecting" anyone. Once a baby is born,as far as these squits are concerned the mother and child are on their own. The stated purpose of these bills is so women can see the "life" they are "ending" and thus realize the magnitude of of what they are about to do. In essence, they are calling women stupid. I know women who have had abortions, and they realized the import of their actions before taking this step. They were victims of rape, failed birth control, or there were profound and life threatening birth defects as revealed by amniocentesis and ultrasound. It wasn't for convenience as these idiots claim. Their sole and unstated goal is the control of women...to drive them back into the kitchen where they are to remain...barefoot and pregnant. They are locked in a mindset that tells them women are chattel, failing to understand that view died when women finally got the right to vote.
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