Forced Flu Shots

  1. 0 Georgetown Hospital in DC has forced flu shots. I am a travel nurse and have went through signing my contract and submitting my paperwork just to find out that if I don't have a flu shot I can't go to the facility. Normally I would say- ok, no big deal I'll get the shot but, I am allergic to the shot and eggs. Despite that info and the offer to provide the facility a note from my doctor they continue to refuse to allow me to come to the facility. Is this not discrimination? How can they do this and get away with it? Please help!
  2. Visit  Tinksrn profile page

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  3. Visit  Lizzie21 profile page
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    If you are allergic to the flu shot and it's components then they shouldn't force you to get it. I know at my hospital that if you don't get the flu shot you have to wear a mask during your shift (which sucks). They definitely can't force you, especially if you have a doctors note.
  4. Visit  DuluthMike profile page
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    Look this is a huge bummer but be very careful with words like discriminatory. 36,000 die from influenza each year. No one is saying you can't work because of your race, religion, or creed. They are saying you could be potentially dangerous. Try to look at it though that lense for a bit to find understanding from their position and then perhaps try to meet in the middle. I know some hospitals allow nurses to opt out if they use N95 respirators.

    Best of luck.
  5. Visit  happy2learn profile page
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    That doesn't make sense. My hospital requires flu shots, but I know people who are allergic to the things that you are who were exempted from the requirement.
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  6. Visit  MassED profile page
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    Quote from DuluthMike
    Look this is a huge bummer but be very careful with words like discriminatory. 36,000 die from influenza each year. No one is saying you can't work because of your race, religion, or creed. They are saying you could be potentially dangerous. Try to look at it though that lense for a bit to find understanding from their position and then perhaps try to meet in the middle. I know some hospitals allow nurses to opt out if they use N95 respirators.

    Best of luck.
    I use N95 even with having the flu shot....
  7. Visit  UserG profile page
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    If it is a medical concern, I think you are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. If you put it to them that way, they may feel compelled to make a reasonable accommodation (mask).
    Leelee2 likes this.
  8. Visit  badphish profile page
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    may i suggest the blue smurf suit as used in our biowarfare research facilities.

    is there a super flu i dont know about
  9. Visit  roser13 profile page
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    Quote from UserG
    If it is a medical concern, I think you are protected under the Americans with Disabilities Act. If you put it to them that way, they may feel compelled to make a reasonable accommodation (mask).
    I doubt that the ADA would consider an egg allergy to be a disability.
    Virgo_RN likes this.
  10. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    I think because you are a travel nurse you will not have the usual protections if they have decided to have a zero tolerance stance.

    It would be interesting what theiy would do in the case of a regular staff nurse and if they would be protected from this under any of the labor laws that exist.
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  11. Visit  roser13 profile page
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    Quote from CrunchRN
    I think because you are a travel nurse you will not have the usual protections if they have decided to have a zero tolerance stance.

    It would be interesting what theiy would do in the case of a regular staff nurse and if they would be protected from this under any of the labor laws that exist.
    I doubt it. Employers are allowed to have conditions of employment.
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  12. Visit  BabyLady profile page
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    FYI, The flu shot this year has the H1N1 already in it.

    I didn't take it last year and won't take it this year...this is my facility policy:

    1. If you don't take the flu shot, you sign a waiver.

    2. If you don't take the shot and get sick, you are forced to take 7 days off...calender days and use PTO time.

    3. If you take the shot, and get sick, you still stay home for 7 days and they don't pay for it...you use PTO time.

    That is why I am not taking the shot.
  13. Visit  CrunchRN profile page
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    Quote from BabyLady
    FYI, The flu shot this year has the H1N1 already in it.

    I didn't take it last year and won't take it this year...this is my facility policy:

    1. If you don't take the flu shot, you sign a waiver.

    2. If you don't take the shot and get sick, you are forced to take 7 days off...calender days and use PTO time.

    3. If you take the shot, and get sick, you still stay home for 7 days and they don't pay for it...you use PTO time.

    That is why I am not taking the shot.

    So you get rewarded by actually getting to stay home if you get sick?
  14. Visit  caroladybelle profile page
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    Quote from Tinksrn
    Georgetown Hospital in DC has forced flu shots. I am a travel nurse and have went through signing my contract and submitting my paperwork just to find out that if I don't have a flu shot I can't go to the facility. Normally I would say- ok, no big deal I'll get the shot but, I am allergic to the shot and eggs. Despite that info and the offer to provide the facility a note from my doctor they continue to refuse to allow me to come to the facility. Is this not discrimination? How can they do this and get away with it? Please help!
    First, you are a traveler - they can accept or decline you for virtually any reason. You do not have the normal protections afforded a staff nurse.

    Second, in many areas, if a facility determines that a flu shot is reasonably warranted to safely work there and provide the care that is due, they can require it. In many hospitals, the employee handbook/job description lists the staffer as being able to lift a certain amount of weight. If you are not able to lift that much, they can legally bar you from the job. Granted, few actually test that but it is in many work description.

    Do I agree with their requirement? No, but they have the right to set that requirement. Perhaps they figure that it is cheaper than providing N95s/fitting N95s for everyone.

    As a traveler, I once nearly got kicked from a job, because CT in error sent them test results, that indicated that I might have TB, as part of the differential. The facility had actually violated HIPAA in accepting and using the data. It didn't matter - once they acquired it (in violation of HIPAA), they were required to bar me from pt care until TB was ruled out - thus they cancelled the assignment. It did get reinstated after I was bronched and shown negative.

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