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Aug 12, 2008 11:32 AM

Emergency Nursing Supply Relief Act, HR 5924

Updated Aug 16, 2008 at 11:53 AM by sirI

US Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) wrote this editorial about his co-sponsorship of HR 5924, the Emergency Nursing Supply Relief Act. Do you support the bill?

8/11/2008
A prescription for our nursing shortage
By Jim Sensenbrenner

Nurses have always been the friendly faces providing comfort and rehabilitation while we and our loved ones recover in the hospital or healthcare facility. However, over the past decade, the numbers of nurses in the US have been dwindling. According to the American Hospital Association, there are presently over 116,000 vacancies for registered nurses. By 2014, that number is estimated to be 1.2 million. This shortage not only creates a crunch on hospitals and other facilities trying to administer care, but has also contributed to nearly 24% of hospital deaths and injuries.
http://www.wisopinion.com/index.iml?...&article=15734

-- Sensenbrenner, R-Menomonee Falls, represents Wisconsin's Fifth Congressional District in the U.S. House of Representatives.


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from herring_RN
Old Aug 12, 2008, 01:51 PM

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I can tell his goals are excellent. He understands without details the importance of nurses.
I'll have to study the bill before deciding whether to support it.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 02:03 PM

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Here is the text of the bill:

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h110-5924
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 03:14 PM

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Oh no, here we go again!!!
There isn't a shortage of nurses, it's the fact that nurses are leaving in droves because of the working conditions!!! Grant more foreign visas?? Oh, great idea More foreign labor to dilute wages. Here's an idea .... try paying nurses what they're worth, and have better staffing ratios. Oh, and why not let LPN's (who are already here, and trained!!!) into more institutions?
Aaaarghhhhhhhh!!!!!
mc3
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 03:47 PM
Updated Aug 12, 2008 at 03:50 PM by alan headbloom

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Originally Posted by mc3 View Post
Oh no, here we go again!!! There isn't a shortage of nurses, it's the fact that nurses are leaving in droves because of the working conditions!!! Grant more foreign visas?? Oh, great idea. More foreign labor to dilute wages. Here's an idea .... try paying nurses what they're worth, and have better staffing ratios. Oh, and why not let LPN's (who are
Originally Posted by mc3 View Post
already here, and trained!!!) into more institutions?
Aaaarghhhhhhhh!!!!!
mc3
MC,

Sounds like Rep. Sensenbrenner and his colleagues need to hear from you, a knowledgeable person in the trenches. Seems like the time for citizen input is now!

http://sensenbrenner.house.gov/ Click on "Contact Jim."

Alan
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by alan headbloom View Post
US Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-WI) wrote this editorial about his co-sponsorship of HR 5924, the Emergency Nursing Supply Relief Act. Do you support the bill?

8/11/2008
A prescription for our nursing shortage
By Jim Sensenbrenner

Nurses have always been the friendly faces providing comfort (blah blah blah--see original post)
Alan Headbloom, are you a nurse?
Didn't think so. So why have you joined allnurses?

Could it be that you stand to benefit financially from this bill passing? Since you make your living training foreign healthcare personnel to improve their English skills, your support of the bill is certainly understandable!

But trying to drum up support here-- in a nurses' forum--for a bill that will increase the number of foreign nurses is inappropriate. The US government should be pouring money into programs to increase the number of US citizens attending nursing school. (I do realize that the bill does include a provision for increasing funding in this area, but it is not enough.)

So, do I support this bill, in its current form? Nope. I don't support it here in this thread, and I didn't support it in the other threads you seem to interject it into!
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 04:41 PM

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I'm not sure that an influx of foreign workers is always such a good idea. Good for those who want to immigrate but not always beneficial to those who already reside here.

While as a student I support more resources for training new nurses I also think more needs to be looked at at how to retain the nursing population not just to train more replacements.

And yes allowing LVN/LpN's to what they are trained for and not just in LTC would help and LVN's wouldn't just be a stop on the way to RN.
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from RN1989
Old Aug 12, 2008, 05:34 PM

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I read that this bill was already passed on Aug 1.

They disregarded what the ANA had to say about stopping the mass influx of foreign nurses and making the employers more responsible for improving the working conditions so that US nurses wouldn't leave the profession.
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Old Aug 12, 2008, 07:54 PM

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Alan Headbloom, are you a nurse?
Didn't think so. So why have you joined allnurses?

Could it be that you stand to benefit financially from this bill passing? Since you make your living training foreign healthcare personnel to improve their English skills, your support of the bill is certainly understandable!

But trying to drum up support here-- in a nurses' forum--for a bill that will increase the number of foreign nurses is inappropriate. The US government should be pouring money into programs to increase the number of US citizens attending nursing school. (I do realize that the bill does include a provision for increasing funding in this area, but it is not enough.)

So, do I support this bill, in its current form? Nope. I don't support it here in this thread, and I didn't support it in the other threads you seem to interject it into!
HHN,

I am not a nurse and have been upfront about this from my first participation in this forum (http://allnurses.com/forums/f8/what-...-321291-4.html).

I am only interested in gaining another view of life and culture in the hospital. And so far, lots of members have given me insights straight from the horse's mouth, which I can relay to my clients in order to make their lives more integrated and productive. In the health care field, I currently work only with IMGs and the Americans who work with them. (I also work with foreign-born engineers, managers, researchers, and others outside of health care.) I have no vested interest in the passage of this current legislation, which you labeled as flawed. If I were to begin working with international nurses, I'd share lots of info about how to work with Americans, how to understand American culture, and certainly quote some of the candid discussions from this forum about how American nurses feel about all kinds of issues.

If members of this forum wish to express their opinions further on this topic, I'll gladly listen. I'm not trying to "drum up" support for anything here. Just tapping a source of expertise which needs to be shared.

Thanks for listening (and responding),
Alan
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from herring_RN
Old Aug 12, 2008, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RN1989 View Post
I read that this bill was already passed on Aug 1.

They disregarded what the ANA had to say about stopping the mass influx of foreign nurses and making the employers more responsible for improving the working conditions so that US nurses wouldn't leave the profession.
It must have been a different but similar bill.

This one has been introduced and sent to committees. That's it so far.

http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-h5924/show
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