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No. 50
from herring_RN
Old Nov 02, 2008, 05:08 AM

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I work with a wonderful group of nurses as well as other professionals and hospital workers.
WE come from many countries and regions of the United States.

WE are Americans, some by choice and others by birth.

Each of us are unique individuals and we are a great team.

PS: WE are well paid and well staffed so we can truly provide safe, effective, theraputic, compassionate care.
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No. 51
from ivanh3
Old Nov 02, 2008, 06:18 AM
Updated Nov 02, 2008 at 01:43 PM by ivanh3

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Originally Posted by Nurse4years View Post
Can you not compare these nurses with less aggressive southerners?
Originally Posted by Nurse4years View Post
The less aggressive nurses I originally spoke of were not from the south, or even from this country. I just used that trait as an example.
Then please explain the above comment. I believe you were implying that southern nurses are "less aggressive" as compared to nurses from New York. You were again making your point that you can determine the negative traits of a person based on geography.

Originally Posted by Nurse4years View Post
That is why I can have the opinions that I have- because I believe that the traits in my culture are the most desirable.

For the greater offenses- lazy, irritating, non empathetic-
Some will tell you, others will ignore, others defend.
I'm not going to point toward any direction-
BUT YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!
Yes, it is obvious that you think your culture is the most desirable. I believe you have made that quite clear. Most people are likely to be ethnocentric on some level, but you have taken it up a notch or two. I know you are not going to point. People like you usually don't until you get somewhere with others like you, or you can hide safely behind the anonymity of mediums like this. Your angry, hate based rhetoric doesn't bear scrutiny, and you know it. I think it is a shame. You clearly have much nursing experience and are very likely to be a highly skilled nurse.

Originally Posted by HoosierMale View Post
I think the guy you are talking to is a brash and rude person who despises the US. He is in an ASN to FNP program and knows everything.
I am curious as to what area of nursing you are in and how long you have been a nurse. What in your practice has brought you to your conclusions regarding foreign nurses?

You might have a point about me being brash and rude, and for that I apologize. However, I do not despise this country and as an overseas US Army veteran, I think I have proven that. Accusing someone of being unpatriotic for disagreeing with you just demonstrates the weakness of your position on issues like this. You have no valid counter point, you can not demonstrate any facts, and so you just spout out that I "despise" this country simply because I state that nationality does not determine the quality of a nurse.

Nurse4years and you have decided based on your anecdotal experiences that, by virtue of being foreign, nurses from other parts of the world are inferior. As I have pointed out before, with the obvious amount of contempt you bear for these people, because that is what foreign nurses are: people, how effectively can you treat them when they end up as one of your patients? My faith and religion tell me that all people on this planet have equal worth, and that the convention of borders does not determine a persons worth.
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No. 52
Old Nov 02, 2008, 10:12 AM

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You really just don't get it, do you?
Oh well.
You have a good day.
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No. 53
Old Nov 04, 2008, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nurse4years View Post
You really just don't get it, do you?
Oh well.
You have a good day.
Well said.
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No. 54
Old Nov 13, 2008, 05:00 PM

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I think it's important to know that contact your elected officials is so important. I've participated in Lobby Days in Illinois and in telephone drives to elected official's offices and have actually seen those officials change their minds about issues after hearing from their constituants.

Now, with email, many advocacy websites and programs offer "quick reply" contacts, where you get an action alert email, hit a button and fill in your name to send it to your congressman. You don't even have to know who they are!
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No. 55
Old Nov 22, 2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by mc3 View Post
Oh no, here we go again!!!
There isn't a shortage of nurses, it's the fact that nurses are leaving in droves because of the working conditions!!! Grant more foreign visas?? Oh, great idea More foreign labor to dilute wages. Here's an idea .... try paying nurses what they're worth, and have better staffing ratios. Oh, and why not let LPN's (who are already here, and trained!!!) into more institutions?
Aaaarghhhhhhhh!!!!!
mc3

AMEN! I am so burnt out lately! I can't stand the regulations enforced upon nursing. Nursing is becoming intolerable and MORE AND MORE nurses are leaving due to the unrealistic demands placed upon our practice. JCAHO/STATE inspections, regulations for patient safety that do NOTHING but place more work on our overloaded shoulders. Gold standard for patient care is a crock! Fall precautions, restraint issues with side rails down in order to PREVENT FALLS??? COWS at each bedside (half don't work), scanning armbands, and meds in order to prevent med errors....yet the scanners may or may not scan. Bringing foreign nurses over WILL do nothing other than decrease pay for American nurses. DO NOT VOTE FOR THIS BILL! American nurses MUST unite and stand together for our careers, and for our patients. Managers are little help for us, so busy trying to kiss state butt. Most of our peers are too busy stabbing each other in the back to even become a united front. In the meantime patients are getting sicker their health concerns increasingly complex and the nurses time is spent maintaining compliance with the myriad of details these "patient safety/accreditation organizations" enforce upon us. Patients are no longer patients...they are clients, customers. Families NOW have huge say in the direction of "client" care regardless of the healthcare teams professional advice. Our hands our tied Nurses due to our inability to work together as a UNIFIED team. Now I am not advocating for unionization, but there has to be someway that we within this forum can make a difference in our chosen profession. If this does not occur soon, you will see more foreign nurses at the bedside, and many of us within the ranks now WILL leave. I for one regrettably want out. This is a painful choice because I do want to be a nurse, and I take pride in my profession, yet my body is hurting, and my mind is exhausted. WAKE UP NURSES....
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No. 56
Old Nov 22, 2008, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by herring_RN View Post
I work with a wonderful group of nurses as well as other professionals and hospital workers.
WE come from many countries and regions of the United States.

WE are Americans, some by choice and others by birth.

Each of us are unique individuals and we are a great team.

PS: WE are well paid and well staffed so we can truly provide safe, effective, theraputic, compassionate care.

Where do U work???? LOL
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No. 57
from herring_RN
Old Nov 23, 2008, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by lorilou22RN View Post
Where do U work???? LOL
California
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