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No. 20
from herring_RN
Old Aug 15, 2008, 10:11 AM

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I work with many excellent nurses who graduated in other countries. Most are US citizens now.

But increasing the number of slots in nursing programs and improving conditions are the only real solution.
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No. 21
Old Aug 15, 2008, 10:18 AM

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1989, you raise some very good points. Thanks for explaining. Time for the full-blown citizens on this forum to contact their legislators, I reckon. Good luck clearing the final hurdles to your citizenship!

Pointe, you're welcome for Mencken. I keep telling myself, "Google is our friend!" (Sometimes I wonder if it's really helping us stay in touch, however. I used to ask live human beings all these questions!)
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No. 22
from RN1989
Old Aug 15, 2008, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by alan headbloom View Post
1989, Good luck clearing the final hurdles to your citizenship!
What???? That comment makes no sense. I am not getting my citizenship! I have always been a US citizen - my family came to this country on the Mayflower!

You have obviously missed my numerous postings on the subject of foreign nurses if you think that I am not a citizen.
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No. 23
Old Aug 18, 2008, 12:14 PM

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Along those lines, here's a link to share with American acquaintances who might want to consider nursing as a career:

http://www.lifeinfozone.com/educatio...er-in-nursing/
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No. 24
Old Aug 18, 2008, 01:57 PM
Updated Aug 18, 2008 at 02:19 PM by alan headbloom

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Originally Posted by RN1989 View Post
What???? That comment makes no sense. I am not getting my citizenship! I have always been a US citizen - my family came to this country on the Mayflower! You have obviously missed my numerous postings on the subject of foreign nurses if you think that I am not a citizen.
1989,

Oops, sorry. I mis-posted that comment. Another online member is becoming a citizen; I was congratulating her. I'll have to click and paste more carefully. (See post #20 above.)

Luckily for them, your immigrant ancestors were given a warm welcome by the natives.

Alan
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No. 25
Old Aug 18, 2008, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RN1989 View Post
What???? That comment makes no sense. I am not getting my citizenship! I have always been a US citizen - my family came to this country on the Mayflower!

You have obviously missed my numerous postings on the subject of foreign nurses if you think that I am not a citizen.
That might have been meant for me I'm a transplant from New Zealand and I LOVE it here. I feel very passionate about my new homeland.
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No. 26
Old Aug 19, 2008, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by tothepointe View Post
That might have been meant for me I'm a transplant from New Zealand and I LOVE it here. I feel very passionate about my new homeland.
Dear Kiwi Pointer Sister,

Lots to love about being here. Like everywhere, there are good aspects and bad. It's all a balancing act. Welcome aboard this very diverse, very outspoken ship!

And you don't have to tell us which rowing/sailing/swimming teams you are privately cheering for during the Beijing games! ;-) (Old ties run deep!)

Alan
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No. 27
from gemninja
Old Aug 28, 2008, 11:31 PM

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This is very interesting. I have been reading this site for a long time and love it. BTW, I finally started nursing school after two years on the waitlist. WEE!!! My mom is a foreign nurse who has 20 plus years of experience now in the US and is one of the most knowledgable and competent nurses. But even my mother has said she worked so hard once she got here to understand the US nursing system because the country she is from the RN's there do not get the training they get here. I rather not say where to not cause any fights.
She says where she is from RN's were basically pill pushers. I have two cousins Rns who are trying to come here and they say the same thing unfortunately. They studied for the NCLEX at they say its nothing like what they learned. I tell them about what Im doing and they say again its not like what they learned. They say US nurses have to do so much more and have more responsibility. I support my cousins coming here I know they are both caring and intelligent people who will be great nurses and learn the system here. But what about the others who are lazy and just do enough to pass the test and move? This scares me. I think what needs to be done is better evaluation by the US of foreign schools. But I doubt that will happen.
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No. 28
Old Sep 09, 2008, 11:22 AM

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I agree that this bill is ludicrous and an insult to nursing. I completely agree that this would long-term only serve to excacerbate and not solve the problem. Why would we let nurses leave countries where they are critically needed to care for patients whose culture or language they are not fluent let alone their skill set?
A rhetorical question indeed. We would be shooting ourselves in the foot.
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No. 29
Old Sep 09, 2008, 11:51 AM

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Where are the Foreign Nurses?
by Carl Shusterman

Any topic involving immigration is sure to spark a debate these days – including the topic of foreign-trained nurses.

Do foreign-trained nurses depress the wages of U.S. nurses? Since the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services reports that less than four percent of all nurses in the U.S. are foreign trained, it is hard to imagine their presence would have much effect on wages one way or another. Indeed, annual RN wages climbed 14% from 2000 to 2004, from an average of $46,782 to $57,755 according to HHS, and most indicators suggest that wages have continued to rise since then.

Do foreign-trained nurses displace U.S. nurses? Given a national hospital nurse vacancy rate of over 8%, as reported by the American Hospital Association, that doesn’t seem likely. And, given projections that the U.S. will be anywhere from 340,000 to one million nurses short by the year 2020, it seems improbable that foreign nurses will displace U.S. nurses any time in the near future.

What about the “brain-drain?” By recruiting foreign trained nurses, are we undercutting medical services in countries where the need for medical professionals is.... (for the rest of the article, go to http://www.recruitingtrends.com/)
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