Emergency Nurse Relief Act 2009- Update

Wait... first you want to say that there is no shortage and now you admit there is a shortage and you need to increase funds for nursing education... you can't have it both ways.

Yes, I'm for increasing funds to nursing education; the problem is TIMING. There is no physical way to produce enough qualified RNs fast enough in the USA that is why there has to be a two-part solution, bring in foreign nurses to fill the immediate needs and then increase nursing education to fill the long-term need.


I agree this is the perfect time to fund the NEED Bill that will support US nurse the time line work perfect.


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Did you know that as a US citizen living in another country that I still have to file income tax returns? I do.
Also, just because I'm living in the Philippines does not mean I'm completely out of touch. I've had long phone calls with family and friends in the USA who are loosing jobs and struggling with pay cuts and losses in commission earnings. I'm aware of how things are NOW. I'm focusing on what is happening in the next 24-36 months



Once again the NEED Bill will take care of this.


"I only know of agencies that are hiring, the hospital administrators that I've met are not willing to disclose the hospital names to anyone except for the agencies that they have contracts with. This is a very competitive and in many ways secretive business in the Philippines because there is a great fear of hijacking clients and prospects.

They will say that they work for "a major hospital in NY state" and that's about the best I can get out of them.

Additionally, based on AllNurses.com TOS I'm not sure I am allowed to post the recruitment agency information here."

I have nothing against Philippine nurses. But seeing what is going on in the US, wouldn't it be a better idea all around, if the Philippinno nurses took control over their profession? Demanded that their government stop overproducing nurses who have no chance of obtaining employment in their country? They are setting themselves up to be exploited in the US, and other countries who are the recipients of the un-needed nurses.

In other words, fix the problem instead of emigrating to other countries to find work. It is the obligation of a government to take care of their own, not export the problem to other countries. JMHO and my NY$0.02.

Lindarn, RN, BSN, CCRN
Spokane, Washington

They aren't seeking advice from me; we are just talking when we encounter at offices of other businesses or when they talk to me about our business and what we do.

Maybe they are more open to people that aren't part of a union because they can say things that won't cause damage or struggle?

No matter how many times it is proven an incorrect statement this false argument that immigrant nurses work cheap keeps getting thrown around.

Nurses have to be paid the same because of US law. The hospitals are not paying less for these nurses.

But at least now we have gotten to the root of your problem. You fear non-union nurses upsetting the status quo.

Opponents to the bill are equally self-serving.

They don't want foreign nurses to be here so that they can have the jobs for themselves. But they want the jobs to have altered conditions, increased pay and all sorts of other things.
Bringing in foreign nurses who are appreciative of current conditions is counterproductive to the desire to change the state of things so there is a secondary opposition to bringing in nurses from outside the USA.

How is that any less selfish?

This has absolutely nothing to do with the growing shortage in the USA which we will see explode as soon as the recession is over.

Again people are talking about the poor conditions of nursing in the Philippines when we are talking about filling a need in the USA.

I fail to see what the conditions of nursing in one country have to do with the needs in another

I also do not see how nurses seeking employment abroad is "exporting the problem" when in reality it is individuals seeking a solution.

We aren't just talking about nurses from the Philippines, although the Philippines is the only nation in the world with a measurable SURPLUS of active-license nurses and therefore the first place to go when one needs a nurse; Korea, China, India and Pakistan are ramping up in numbers of nurses seeking employment in the USA.

Please stop focusing the argument on other countries. The issue is the problem in the USA and how to fix it.